did romney lie about the binder thing too?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Free Thinker, Oct 17, 2012.

  1. Apparently Romney was asked about his role in hiring women, and he claimed to have worked hard to bring more women into leadership positions.

    ROMNEY: Thank you. An important topic, and one which I learned a great deal about, particularly as I was serving as governor of my state, because I had the chance to pull together a cabinet and all the applicants seemed to be men.

    And I — and I went to my staff, and I said, "How come all the people for these jobs are — are all men." They said, "Well, these are the people that have the qualifications." And I said, "Well, gosh, can’t we — can’t we find some — some women that are also qualified?"

    And — and so we — we took a concerted effort to go out and find women who had backgrounds that could be qualified to become members of our cabinet.

    I went to a number of women’s groups and said, "Can you help us find folks," and they brought us whole binders full of women.

    Nice story. Good for him. Except that it isn’t true.

    What actually happened was that in 2002 — prior to the election, not even knowing yet whether it would be a Republican or Democratic administration — a bipartisan group of women in Massachusetts formed MassGAP to address the problem of few women in senior leadership positions in state government. There were more than 40 organizations involved with the Massachusetts Women’s Political Caucus (also bipartisan) as the lead sponsor.

    They did the research and put together the binder full of women qualified for all the different cabinet positions, agency heads, and authorities and commissions. They presented this binder to Governor Romney when he was elected.


    I will write more about this later, but for tonight let me just make a few quick additional points. First of all, according to MassGAP and MWPC, Romney did appoint 14 women out of his first 33 senior-level appointments, which is a reasonably impressive 42 percent. However, as I have reported before, those were almost all to head departments and agencies that he didn’t care about — and in some cases, that he quite specifically wanted to not really do anything. None of the senior positions Romney cared about — budget, business development, etc. — went to women.

    Secondly, a UMass-Boston study found that the percentage of senior-level appointed positions held by women actually declined throughout the Romney administration, from 30.0% prior to his taking office, to 29.7% in July 2004, to 27.6% near the end of his term in November 2006. (It then began rapidly rising when Deval Patrick took office.)

    Third, note that in Romney’s story as he tells it, this man who had led and consulted for businesses for 25 years didn’t know any qualified women, or know where to find any qualified women. So what does that say?

    The man is great big smilin’ bag of lies, isn’t he?

  2. http://www.mormonthink.com/lying.htm

    Lying for the Lord

    "The following was written by Ken Clark for MormonThink. Ken worked full time for the LDS Church Education System (CES) for 27 years. He also served as a bishop; a calling he enjoyed as much as full time instructor and Coordinator for the Church Education System. He loved (and still loves) the students and the ward members. His story can be found here.

    Ken gave an excellent presentation on Lying for the Lord at the 2008 ExMormon Foundation Conference in Salt Lake City"


    "Evidence presented in this essay establishes that when the church image or its leaders needed protection it was and is, okay to fib, deceive, distort, inflate, minimize, exaggerate, prevaricate or lie. You will read quotations by church leaders who admitted that deception is a useful tool to protect the church and its leaders "when they are in a tight spot," or "to beat the devil at his own game." They admit engaging in moral gymnastics; that God approves of deception - if it's done to protect the "Lord's Church" or "the brethren" as the leaders are called."
  3. Ricter


    Remember, it's not a lie if he believes it's the truth.

  4. Women weren't qualified.
    Smart (good looking) women have learned family law is soo skewed in their favor it's more lucrative to marry into the CEO/boardroom position and get their golden parachute that route.

    Why climb the corporate ladder when you can marry into it?
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    You are talking about republican American women? Because your comment is about Romney can not find qualified women. But really I think you talk so small. I know women can have passion for their career and be feminine too. Why do YOU want to say women only want to marry in the money if they are good looking?
  6. 1) republican , democrap , femi-nazi's all of 'em.
    2) I don't really find it that unusual.
    3) I have no idea what you are talking about , but then again neither do you .
    4) The stark reality is, that just isn't enough to compete with men.
    feminine in the workplace only works in strip clubs, sales (to men) and TV.
    5) strawman argument ,or You have reading comprehension problems.
  7. Wake up people. ALL POLITICIANS LIE!!! The ones that tell the truth never get elected because they don't tell you the stuff you want to hear. If we are going to elect a liar, we might as well elect the liar who lies the least and currently Obama has told more lies than can be counted.
  8. Ricter


    Now you're lying.
  9. Have a little problem with women I guess? Afraid of the competition? Come on, you're coming off really backward here.