Did Robert Hoffman really lose 312K in a single TF trade? Yikes!

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Jreality, Jul 19, 2011.

  1. Hello wouter - About how many people are in Rob's room now...I was a member for 3 months on a special. My membership ended just before his blowup.
     
    #311     Nov 1, 2014
  2. wouter

    wouter

    There is no way to know as there is no counter, but the admin said there were 100 long time members who stay year after year.
     
    #312     Nov 2, 2014
  3. I am not sure why people make a big deal on this. He is using a high win rate & super high risk/reward strategy (martingale). A big drawdown is something expected after a series of small wins in martingale. The question is how many small wins he has before this big drawdown?

    The question we should ask is how much money is he already make so far, is 312k blow up his accout? or it is just a drawdown from the overall account? Is he still in profit after the 312k loss?
     
    #313     Nov 2, 2014
  4. wouter

    wouter

    Because it is a BIG deal to get shut down by your broker.
     
    #314     Nov 2, 2014
  5. Rob is a salesman. I saw Rob make $50 or $200 or not trade at all. VERY rarely 2k or 3k on a martingale. Then he blows up his account with a 312k loss. I just wondered if Rob had run out of suckers but I guess that will never happen. After all, I was a sucker for 3 months. There are thousands of us I guess.
     
    #315     Nov 3, 2014
  6. Busta21

    Busta21

    First. All of you in his trade room are there for entertainment. Secondly, any moron trading that type of size on an ILLIQUID market like the Russell 2000 has no business trading. 800 lots, on a single day trade? Are you serious......And to all of you calling 'Martingale BS' - You don't do that with 800 lots - You do it with swing trades. This entire thread is hilarious and sad because some of you actually go into that room. If he was at a dealer/bank or a real HF he - hes not for a reason - that shit would not fly.
     
    #316     Nov 9, 2014
  7. Busta21

    Busta21

    2 years of work? Look, if this guy has a $1m or even $500K account using $500 margins he should be making a minimum of $50K a week trading. But hes a gambler, not a trader.
     
    #317     Nov 9, 2014
  8. wouter

    wouter

    Are you making 50K on 500K or for that matter 5k on 50k? That's 10% per week. If so please PM me I'd like to talk.
     
    #318     Nov 9, 2014
  9. Busta21

    Busta21

    No - you're not a sucker. You need to pay the market its 'dues' - so to speak, whether that means paying for trading books, seminars, losing $20K on a trade to teach a lesson, whatever it is - its all a cost of business. Think if you were running say a restaurant and you tried to earn more cash by hiring a marketing guy and it turned out not to be as great as you thought. Big deal, you learn from it. Also, if you're smart you realize that you can write off educational courses/chat rooms/ etc if you are an independent trader.
     
    #319     Nov 9, 2014
  10. You need to use common sense and do the proper vetting before losing your money. Ask the right questions, get a 2nd opinion, and make a smart business decision. Gurus are 99% frauds, and when they don't show a proper P/L when you give them your money this is not 'paying the market'. this is just being dumb. Writing off something doesn't make it the right decision, since most jokers have 25k and giving a guru 5k isn't smart because it is a write off. don't be conditioned that you must make all the same mistakes as other suckers. don't ever use a guru, give guru your money, get conned by a guru, etc....you can watch enough free videos to know which ones are super horrible and hindsight crap, which is about all of them. books are worthless, seminars are worthless.....use your brain, think, they want your money and it's easier to sucker you than make it from trading. it's ONLY when they have a proper P/L and made it legitimately that you can trust them. Even those guys, like Buffet, have such deep pockets that it might not help you at all. But I would rather read Buffet (I don't) than listen to youtube Guru on how he could have made 1,000 points in 9 seconds.
     
    #320     Nov 9, 2014