Deutsche Launches First Hedgefund ETF

Discussion in 'ETFs' started by Rodney King, Mar 16, 2009.

  1. rickf

    rickf

    Damn.

    It figures -- now that the major HF collapse is over, they come out with this. How typical....last year just as the commodity bubble was bursting, UBS came out with long-only retail-oriented notes tied commodity indices. Those went nowhere but down, down, down.

    Wish this was around 2 years ago, it'd have been a great short. :)
     
  2. Corelio

    Corelio

    roflmao...
     
  3. asap

    asap

    99.99% or so. the etf might sue Porsche BTW :D:D
     
  4. Actually, tracking hedge fund *indices* seems to be the first sensible attempt to produce an actively managed ETF. And its portfolio is UCITS-compliant too, i.e. much safer than American LLC's. No Madoff schemes possible here: independent regulator-approved onshore fund administrators are required, and exchange listing in Ireland gives additional security. No Amaranth-style blow-ups are possible either, because an UCITS-compliant fund has its leverage limited to 2x (but still allowed for speculative purposes). Even the total expense ratio below 1% seems reasonable (just see those second-level fees of a typical Fund of HF's...). OK, I admit it - European red tape wins hands down on this one - exporting alpha via a stock exchange would not be possible for US hedge funds - LLCs are just plain to risky on all counts.

    Go on, Interactive, the ticker is XHFI: http://www.dbxtrackers.de/DE/showpage.asp?pageid=143&inrnr=153&pkpnr=465&stinvtyp=

    and it is an ETF listed on XETRA, so no one will blame you if you enable it for all of us, not merely German or EU citizens. Looks like the first cross-border marketable hedge fund! Such a pity that market neutral strategies have a mere 4% weight in its portfolio... but what else do you expect from an indexer - 'value weighting' translates here into 'strategy capacity weighting'.
     
  5. Why "pity" ?:confused:

    DTD MTD YTD INDEX
    VALUE Feb 09 ROR YTD 2008 2007 2006

    HFRX Equity Market Neutral Index -0.4464% -1.27% -2.20% 1019.95 -0.95% -0.95% -1.16% 3.11% 4.76%:
     
  6. Rex84

    Rex84

  7. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Actually it is not better than shorting an index ETF. Market went down -38% last year, the average HF only -18%....
     
  8. jimbo320

    jimbo320

    Good luck
     
    #10     Mar 25, 2009