Deutsch Bank

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by Spectre2007, Mar 24, 2016.

  1. This is the best BSC chart I could find. Remember that once it broke $70 it was over, it was more or less a straight line to $2. Looking at this chart, there's not much volume here. The volume in March 2008 before the break below $70 is not much higher than October when it was still flying high above $120. Nobody was stepping up to buy BSC at $75. By contrast, there are tons of buyers of DB at these levels. Buyers are stepping up. I'm not saying DB is a buy, I'm saying that the chances DB breaks and enters freefall ala BSC are very low.

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    Last edited: Sep 30, 2016
    #71     Sep 30, 2016
  2. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    And you got lucky that JPM screwed up. Otherwise it would have been <2
     
    #72     Sep 30, 2016
  3. I posted earlier on this thread... It's a combination of a) a business model which isn't suitable for the current regulatory environment (i.e. ultimately lack of revenue/ROE), and b) the size and uncertainty arnd the potential legal liabilities (the DoJ being the largest of the lot, but not the only one). The reason the latter is so particularly damaging is the stupidity and arrogance of DB management throughout all these scandals.

    To the best of my knowledge, it's not the level 3 assets and it's emphatically NOT the notional size of their derivatives portfolio.
     
    #73     Sep 30, 2016
  4. I’m confident that this is not Lehman 2008. It is, however, a state of clear and accelerating franchise damage, and there is certainly a point at which that franchise damage becomes so severe that it can’t support its cost base. The worry that ought to be on management and the market’s minds is not a fast and catastrophic collapse, but a gradual transition to a run-off situation in which no long-term funding can be raised and therefore no new business can be initiated. This company needs to raise equity, fast, and settle its litigation, as fast as it can, and not to worry unduly about the cost of doing so.

     
    #74     Sep 30, 2016
  5. So did anyone cash in on today's 7% rally? Or was everyone too busy repeating the consensus bear memes? DB Last: 12.26 Chg ($): 0.78
     
    #75     Sep 30, 2016
  6. Did someone say `crowded short'? DB Last: 13.15 Chg ($): 1.67
     
    #76     Sep 30, 2016
  7. So predictable, its almost too easy.
     
    #77     Sep 30, 2016
  8. I'm going the easy money route, the preferred DTK.
     
    #78     Sep 30, 2016
  9. $DB Call options action friday. Average call volume: 8338, OTM calls on the bid: 23418 . That would be bullish, but I trade contraria
     
    #79     Oct 3, 2016
  10. dealmaker

    dealmaker