Like I said, don't own DB and never have, although my point is valid regardless of and completely independent of my past stock holdings. Also never have seen any quantification of this derivatives exposure you speak so much about. Still waiting for that, along with the 850 page annual report you're so sure you read. I even gave you the link to their annual reports, shouldn't be too hard to find for someone "knowledgeable" like yourself. Your shucking and jiving to the point of talking about ice cream cones would be comical if it wasn't so sad. Here's the deal. All of us make mistakes, we misremember, and our memories are colored by our worldview. Some of us realize that, do our best to overcome it, and when someone points out that what we remembered may not in fact be true we do some research to figure out where the disconnect is and if we were wrong we use it as a learning experience. For example, if you show me the line in the mythical 850 page annual report quantifying DB's derivative exposure I'd thank you, it's something I've been looking for after all. I certainly wouldn't call you "boy" and start some drivel about ice cream cones. Are you capable of this kind of mature adult behavior, that's the real question?