Dest's "Trade Against a Pro" Trading Challenge

Discussion in 'Journals' started by destriero, Dec 1, 2019.

  1. Where did any of what he said translate to a butterfly with a 231 put.I'm not saying you're wrong but I fail to make the connection
     
    #161     Dec 12, 2019
  2. Hivey

    Hivey

    231P = 2-3-1 Put: he buys 2 puts of the lowest strike, sells 3 puts of the center strike and buys 1 put of the upper strike. See it as 2 credit spreads + 1 debit spread combined, with the same short leg.

    In this case, I expect, he bought 2x 3105 Put, sold 3x 3120 Put and bought 1x 3135 Put. That's different then yc47ib mentioned above by the way.

    132C = 1-3-2 Calls. The same, but then from the Call side.
     
    #162     Dec 12, 2019

  3. THANK YOU. The good vibes are in the mail
     
    #163     Dec 12, 2019
  4. Baozi

    Baozi

    It is my understanding that Dest trades these flies with equal risk on the upside/downside. In order to do so, the body distance from the expensive single put has to be twice the distance of the body from the cheap 2 puts. So if you have the body at 3120 and the 2 cheap strikes at 3105, then the expensive strike is at 3150 (3120+15*2).
     
    #164     Dec 12, 2019
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  5. destriero

    destriero

    Yeah, it was a wide 231 done as a synthetic.
     
    #165     Dec 12, 2019
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  6. destriero

    destriero


    231P = B1000(2) x S1050(3) x B1150(1) It's used to denote the natural (all puts) but can be traded as calls or the synthetic.

    132C = B1000(1) x S1100(3) x B1150(2) Also can be traded as all puts or as a synthetic.

    231P meaning the body was below the mkt. Was done as a synthetic.
     
    #166     Dec 12, 2019
  7. destriero

    destriero

    I was grabbing coffee when the Trumptard tweet was posted. I am done with this experiment.

    Lost >$15K on the tweet. Went from up $12K to down $3K on the week. I refuse to chase anything here.

    2019 PNL at start of comp: $444,826.70
    ending: $441,758.06
    Loss of $3,068.04

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    #167     Dec 12, 2019
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  8. Thanks buddy. It is helpful. Good vibes your way too.

    Nothing you can do with the black swan of a Trump trade tweet. This tweet took out a lot of people. There is a guy on reddit in for $160K on SPY $310 puts expiring Monday.
     
    #168     Dec 12, 2019
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  9. Brutal. Thanks for the education on flys though
     
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  10. destriero

    destriero

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    #170     Dec 12, 2019
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