Destriero - Butterfly Trades

Discussion in 'Options' started by ironchef, Dec 11, 2020.

  1. easymon1

    easymon1

    But if direction IS called correctly, what other option plays offer gains of equal or better value than "the fly way out OTM and hit"?
     
    #461     Feb 13, 2021
  2. destriero

    destriero

    Deep OTM verticals will often do better (1x1). Calendars on high skews/low strips. The problem with baby flies deep OTM is that they (can) flip delta.
     
    #462     Feb 13, 2021
  3. ironchef

    ironchef

    Thank you for helping me out. Actually I didn't know that. :)
     
    #463     Feb 13, 2021
  4. ironchef

    ironchef

    I used to simply traded single leg options. Actually worked quite (reasonably? :banghead:) well for me.
     
    #464     Feb 13, 2021
  5. .sigma

    .sigma

    It’s cheap for a reason lol

    read the latter part of my post and you should be in agreement
     
    #465     Feb 14, 2021
  6. .sigma

    .sigma

    S&P

    spray and pray, my friend
     
    #466     Feb 14, 2021
  7. .sigma

    .sigma

    Let’s try a fun experiment. Each week we can paper trade some butterflies on one volatile underlying and one nonvolatile one, and trade various flies on both and see how they perform each week.

    maybe one fly in SPY, one fly in TSLA or any other volatile stock like a RIOT or GME (as long as strikes are liquid) and another fly in a consolidation stock like a MMM or MCD.
     
    #467     Feb 14, 2021
  8. .sigma

    .sigma

    interesting, Taleb mentions contamination (of convexity) on page 2 of “Dynamic Hedging”
     
    #468     Feb 14, 2021
  9. deltaf0rce

    deltaf0rce

    That’s a bear of a book. Read about half and tapped out for the short while. Will be back but doing some more fundamental reading prior
    Best piece I got from the book, limits when buying gamma and blast the market when selling.
     
    #469     Feb 14, 2021
  10. ironchef

    ironchef

    I like your idea. :thumbsup:

    However, been there done that. Both my SPY and GILD flies are profitable. :p

    I should try GME next.
     
    #470     Feb 14, 2021