Destriero - Butterfly Trades

Discussion in 'Options' started by ironchef, Dec 11, 2020.

  1. destriero

    destriero

    Monday: inside day and drop in implieds (SN)
     
    #451     Feb 5, 2021
  2. .sigma

    .sigma


    Nooo! For consistency and as Desty has stated in the past, always quote flies in ascending order. Makes sense since that’s how our brokers quote them as well as examples in books/websites. Idk it looks weird when you say I bought the 230/200/170 classical natural. But to each his own!
     
    #452     Feb 6, 2021
  3. ironchef

    ironchef

    Anyone of you folks trade butterflies on volatile stocks like GME, AMC or TSLA?

    I found it easier to make money trading butterflies with more stable, high volume underlying like SPY, QQQ, etc.
     
    #453     Feb 11, 2021
  4. caroy

    caroy

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    I like the butterfly in a shorter couple day play in the weeklies. The higher the IV the cheaper the fly and the better the R/R day traded one in TSLA last Friday. Fills aren't great and probably better execution in the more liquid ETFs .
     
    #454     Feb 11, 2021
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  5. .sigma

    .sigma

    Butterflies are more suitable for non-volatile underlyings, like you said. You'd have to be a marksman with precision to make a buck off a fly on GME or AMC.
     
    #455     Feb 13, 2021
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  6. caroy

    caroy

    But when you nail one it's pretty good payout. Played the GME 55-50-45 put fly this week in at $1.50 and out at $3.50. Saved my week for the most part.
     
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  7. tsznecki

    tsznecki

    Have to disagree on this. Files are cheap on high IV underlyings. If you can call direction, it's cheap leverage.
     
    #457     Feb 13, 2021
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  8. ironchef

    ironchef

    I think both of you are correct. If your fly setup is fixed body width, very high IV gives you cheaper flies. But high IV with that fixed body width means likely overshoot at expiration and likely will incur a loss.

    If you can call direction correctly, put the fly way out OTM and hit, you get huge payout.
     
    #458     Feb 13, 2021
  9. deltaf0rce

    deltaf0rce

    Eh? 54D10FFB-0296-4E42-94DC-87A9DDBDFF47.jpeg
     
    #459     Feb 13, 2021
  10. deltaf0rce

    deltaf0rce

    But stopped out - over bought. Knew I should’ve kept half. But same net result end of Friday. 5ACAC2AF-D669-4C31-AF7C-623C7DEDBE14.jpeg
     
    #460     Feb 13, 2021
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