Despite doomsday predictions, report finds only 1 layoff from sequester cuts

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Max E., May 7, 2014.

  1. Ricter

    Ricter

    So we can thank Obama for the deficit reduction resulting from the sequester which he himself drew up. Good job, Mr. President.

    (Who is this Krugman you continually mention/froth at the mouth about?)
     
    #11     May 8, 2014
  2. Max E.

    Max E.

    LOL, Obama's idea of deficit reduction, draw up some future cuts you dont think will come to fruition, then do everything in your power to get rid of them, but accidentally let 1 year of the miniscule cuts happen, because you didnt think your idea through.

    Next year quickly add the spending back, plus a couple hundred billion more for good measure, yep, Great job Mr. President!
     
    #12     May 8, 2014
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    So, if the sequester worked, Obama is to blame because it was "miniscule", but if the sequester didn't work it would have been Obama's fault because he thought it up. Got it.
     
    #13     May 8, 2014
  4. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    That's NOT what Max said. In short Odumbo "Forest Gumped" himself into sequester cuts.
     
    #14     May 8, 2014
  5. Max E.

    Max E.


    I would have given him credit, if he had championed the sequester, and then stuck with those cuts, but instead he demagogued conservatives to death over it, then replaced it and added additional spending, first chance he got.

    As we speak, O"bama is trying to get the government to spend more money, 1 side just wont allow it to happen.
     
    #15     May 8, 2014
  6. Max E.

    Max E.


    LOL, thats a great way of putting it. :D
     
    #16     May 8, 2014
  7. House Dems predict sequester doom, gloom for small biz
    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/smallbi...sequester-doom-gloom-small-biz-022054877.html

    Democrats have established a new website [GOPsequester.com] to show American voters how Republicans are "putting tax breaks for the rich over middle-class families."
    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/seq...e-blasting-gop-putting-rich-over-middle-class

    Obama Vastly Exaggerates The Impact of Sequester Cuts
    http://news.investors.com/ibd-edito...uts-less-than-meets-the-eye.htm#ixzz318CJJDTb

    Even Democrats Say Obama ‘Overhyped’ Sequester
    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama-sequester-cuts-hype/2013/03/06/id/493503/
     
    #17     May 8, 2014
  8. Ricter

    Ricter

    And back when it looked scary the conservatives "demagogued" progressives over it.
     
    #18     May 8, 2014
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Do you have links to support how this was all the rage back then? I mean, Trader666 was kind enough to provide several links showing our point of view.
     
    #19     May 8, 2014
  10. Arnie

    Arnie

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/02/05/who-is-responsible-for-the-sequester/

    Obama responded: "First of all, the sequester is not something that I’ve proposed. It is something that Congress has proposed. It will not happen."
    So who is right?

    Well, according to our Washington Post colleague Bob Woodward, the idea did in fact originate in the White House.

    Woodward's book about the 2011 debt ceiling crisis says clearly that the idea originated inside the White House, and Woodward later said that Obama's assertion that the idea was proposed by Congress was "not correct” and that "it’s refuted by the people who work for him.”

    The Post's fact-checker, Glenn Kessler, awarded Obama four Pinocchios for his claim — a rating that denotes "significant factual error and/or obvious contradictions."
    But even if we assume that the idea did originate in the White House, we need to remember one more thing: The debt ceiling agreement that contained the sequestration cuts got significantly more Republican support than Democratic support.
    In fact, 174 of 240 House Republicans voted for it, while just half of House Democrats joined them (95 out of 190 votes). In the Senate, Democrats carried the vote, providing 45 of the 74 "yes" votes, but Senate Republicans also supported it by a 28-19 margin.

    So in total, more than 70 percent of congressional Republicans voted for the deal that included the sequester, while 58 percent of Democrats voted for it.
    In part because of that bipartisan vote, a Romney ad that labeled the sequester as "Obama's defense cuts" was rated only "half true" by Politifact.

    Republicans are engaging in smart political strategy. They know that if the sequester cuts go into effect, there will be a huge amount of blame ready to be heaped on whoever is seen as culpable. And by repeatedly referring to the cuts as Obama's idea (something that is technically correct), they are trying to win the war of semantics, which the White House has been more successful at in recent months.
    But Democrats have a pretty effective case to make that the GOP owns the sequester just as much as the White House does. After all, Republicans overwhelmingly supported it, and the bill passed with bipartisan support.

    And if Congress can't avoid those cuts, there will probably be more than enough blame to go around.
     
    #20     May 8, 2014