DeSantis for the win

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, May 21, 2020.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I have been trying to find a different source but the ACHA is the core source of this data for Florida.

    I downloaded the spreadsheet (csv format) I still see the same odd numbers (you showed above) in Polk, Santa Rosa and Pasco counties . Very odd.
     
    #941     Jul 22, 2020
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    41 have 0 beds available. 12 have no beds at all. 53 in total.

    Screenshot of the Excel download, please note the count in the bottom right after sorting by Available Adult ICU %

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    The article is counting the ones without beds. That's the only way you get to 53. Now, I'm not saying 41 is a good number, it isn't. But the article was wrong - probably intentionally so. As usual, they hope you don't check the source.
     
    #942     Jul 22, 2020
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I am seeing the same 53 total number.... but all of the 53 in Column D (Adult ICU Census) have beds. This means that all 53 are legitimate examples of having 0% capacity. (Screen shot below)

    Where are you seeing that 12 of the 53 are showing they have no ICU beds?

    The article is not counting hospitals without ICU beds. The 53 number is legitimate.

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    #943     Jul 22, 2020

  4. Florida’s coronavirus response is a national embarrassment: medical professor



    Writing in the Washington Post this Tuesday, University of Miami Miller School of Medicine professor Erin N. Marcus gave her thoughts on what she sees to be the grim outlook for Florida’s coronavirus situation, first mentioning the various examples of people ignoring social distancing rules and improperly wearing masks around her town — all things she says contributed to Miami being the virus’ epicenter.

    “This is what happens when your state becomes a national embarrassment. And the reason is clear: We have suffered from failures of political leadership at every level,” she writes.

    “Florida’s challenges are similar to those that New York and other northern states faced months ago,” Marcus continues. “But while leaders in those states took aggressive action and modeled good behavior, our state has been significantly more laissez-faire and chaotic.

    While leadership could be working overtime to get a handle on the outbreak, Marcus doesn’t see a coherent effort coming together anytime soon. “…this is Florida, a state with a well-established history of being anything but rational.”
     
    #944     Jul 22, 2020
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Dude, post links to your articles. You're the only numbskull that doesn't.

    Thanks for the Editorial.
     
    #945     Jul 22, 2020
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Here is the full article. And its a good one. You only posted the first piece and didn't link to it. Such a dope.

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    Erin N. Marcus is a professor of clinical medicine at the University of Miami Miller School of Medicine and a Public Voices fellow.

    I knew something was amiss when I had my car repaired in early June, shortly after Miami began relaxing its coronavirus restrictions. At first glance, the dealership looked as if it was following the recommended precautions: Every other seat was blocked off with tape, and customers and workers were wearing face coverings.

    On closer inspection, many of the customers’ nostrils protruded above their masks. Staff members wore masks with one-way valves, allowing their breath to escape as they told customers the cost of fixing their clunkers. And no one was enforcing limits on the number of customers who could enter the reception area while waiting for their repairs.

    It wasn’t just the repair shop. As I walked around my neighborhood in the early evenings, I’d pass houses with cars packed into their driveways. The sounds of Pitbull and J Balvin blared through the tropical shrubbery — a sure sign of a Miami house party.

    A month later, Miami has become the pandemic’s epicenter. Miami-Dade County’s intensive-care units and emergency departments are jammed. Specialists unaccustomed to managing critically ill patients are being called into action. The state has sent 100 additional health workers, mostly nurses, to the county’s large public hospital to help its exhausted staff.

    I see patients in one of the hospital’s primary-care clinics. Recently, a colleague started her week as ward attending by being called to a code, one of several occurring simultaneously in different parts of the hospital; a middle-aged woman recovering from the coronavirus had suddenly gone into cardiac arrest. Other colleagues have been intubating physically fit young people who precipitously went into respiratory failure.

    This is what happens when your state becomes a national embarrassment. And the reason is clear: We have suffered from failures of political leadership at every level.

    Florida’s challenges are similar to those that New York and other northern states faced months ago. But while leaders in those states took aggressive action and modeled good behavior, our state has been significantly more laissez-faire and chaotic. Bars and restaurants closed for indoor service in March but reopened in June; now, Miami-Dade County’s mayor has shut them down again. Opening business might have worked if our state and local officials had enforced the correct wearing of appropriate masks, or modeled good mask-wearing behavior themselves, or provided businesses with instructions on maintaining proper ventilation. But they didn’t.

    Covid-19 testing is woefully inadequate, and the lucky folks who can actually score an appointment at one of the state’s free testing sites, such as Marlins Park, are waiting more than a week to receive their results. The perpetually underfunded and politically influenced Florida Department of Health lacks enough staff to adequately trace all the people who test positive. Our leaders should have developed a robust public-health infrastructure capable of supporting contact tracing and quarantine enforcement long ago. They didn’t, and scrambling to assemble these systems in the midst of a pandemic is too little, too late.

    Ironically, I feel safer at work, where everyone wears masks correctly and takes proper precautions, than I do out in public. We still have adequate personal protective equipment — for now — and are not yet forced to wear garbage bags and rain ponchos like our colleagues in New York. But many staff are already calling in sick, and we worry we won’t have enough nurses, respiratory therapists and doctors to manage the continuing deluge. And still young medical trainees tell me they see crowds of people, many without masks, congregating in the trendy areas of Miami Beach and in Miami’s Brickell neighborhood.

    Meanwhile, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), who only recently began reliably sporting a mask, has thrown up his hands and proclaimed that younger adults are “going to do what they’re going to do,” arguing that he’s powerless to stop them. At the same time, he’s been bullying local school districts to offer in-person classes next month. Unfortunately, many public schools are housed in environmentally unhealthy buildings with lousy ventilation. Several classrooms in my daughter’s public high school lack windows; in other rooms, the windows that do exist don’t open. For years, the building’s outdated air-conditioning system has emitted a musty smell.

    In a rational world, the federal government would help us test more people, faster; state and federal leaders would set an example by wearing masks correctly and consistently; local officials would strictly enforce quarantine rules; someone would slap warning labels on those awful ubiquitous online ads for valved masks; and our public health departments would be guided by health experts, not politicians. But this is Florida, a state with a well-established history of being anything but rational.

    So for now, the state’s citizens continue to muddle through. My fellow physicians and I are trying to stay on top of a fast-changing situation, while also keeping an eye on hurricane season. In the absence of responsible leadership, we doubt Florida will stop setting records — of the wrong kind — anytime soon.
     
    #946     Jul 22, 2020
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Could you expand column C - the hospital name? I'm still getting 41. I can manually bump it up against yours but I can only do so if I can identify the hospital.

    Also, not necessary to post 400 blank columns.
     
    #947     Jul 22, 2020
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Here it is with Column C expanded.

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    #948     Jul 22, 2020
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Thanks. I downloaded it again and I get what you get. Not sure why the first time was different, the only thing I can think of is that I removed the long term care facilities from the equation and did not reset it prior to downloading. Funny how when you do that, you get exactly 41 and 12 without beds.

    But I will re-state for posterity that the article's count of 53 is correct.

    As we look into the data, we should consider not including places like long term care facilities and psychiatric hospitals from the count. They aren't primary care facilities. Neither are specific pediatric hospitals (and would likely not be affected from Covid anyway).

    What also isn't present is the amount of ICU beds occupied by COVID patients, which is rather important.

    And then there is the issue with the data being screwed up on a number of the hospitals as I pointed out earlier. But there doesn't seem to be a better source.
     
    #949     Jul 22, 2020
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I will agree that the number of ICU beds occupied by COVID patients is rather important. As noted in previous posts, the state of Florida refuses to publish this information.

    The data being screwed up for a number of facilities is very concerning. In a public health crisis it is important for information provided by the government to be transparent and accurate.
     
    #950     Jul 22, 2020