DeSantis for the win

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, May 21, 2020.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Humor is now disinformation. Its a shame your Ministry was canceled by the Biden administration, NPC. You'll have to continue to get your talking points from the whiny media.
     
    #6681     May 18, 2022
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So now you can say this and all the other disinformation Pushaw has regularly spread because it was merely "humor'. In your world nearly all the deliberate misinformation now posted on social media would be OK because it is humor.
     
    #6682     May 18, 2022
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    When someone makes a joke that is quite obviously a joke, good or bad, its not misinformation. It's not information of any type. Its humor. Only NPCs like yourself with an agenda go after people for jokes (good or bad) because you're ass chapped over DeSantis' overwhelming support in the state of Florida.

    You got your panties in a twist and the author of the article did, over the joke of a dog. A dog, NPC. Let that sink in if there is any actual permeable matter in your head.
     
    #6683     May 18, 2022
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You would think a press spokesperson for a governor would be held to a standard of not constantly spewing a constant stream of obvious disinformation. Claiming it is "humor" does not in any way dismiss the problem.
     
    #6684     May 18, 2022
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Actually, she behaves exactly the way she should. You sissies are just used to people rolling over when you attack. She bites back and that's a big portion of why the governor is successful.
     
    #6685     May 18, 2022
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So now the talking points of the DeSantis administration have changed to "Disney is on probation" and nothing may be done with the RCID. Of course, when questioned about how Florida would pay the $1 Billion plus for taking over the RCID -- the answer is that there are still legislative sessions left before 2023 to figure that out. it appears the DeSantis farce is falling apart in a glowing manner and they are trying to walk it back while not appearing to be complete idiots.

    Disney's 'on probation' amid DeSantis' idea to repeal Reedy Creek Improvement Act, official warns
    Florida Chief Financial Officer Jimmy Patronis provides insight on Disney’s special district and the baby formula shortage in the US
    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/disneys-ron-desantis-reedy-creek-improvement

    Florida Chief Financial Officer Jimmy Patronis warned Tuesday that Disney is "on probation" as Gov. Ron DeSantis and some Republican state legislators have surfaced the idea of repealing the Reedy Creek Improvement Act (RCIA).

    "[Disney’s] on probation…If they color outside the lines, then there’ll probably be more questions of what can be done to ensure that they are still the type of partner that they were when that legislation was originally crafted," Patronis told "Cavuto: Coast to Coast."

    Patronis’ comments come on the heels of DeSantis signing a bill that dissolved Walt Disney World’s special governing power in the state last month after the company announced public opposition to a new parental rights law in the state.

    Disney has held a self-governing status for more than 50 years.

    Meanwhile, the Reedy Creek Improvement District is a special taxing district where Disney acts with the same authority and responsibility as a county government. The Reedy Creek Improvement Act was signed into law in May 1967 by Gov. Claude Kirk in response to lobbying efforts by Disney.

    The Reedy Creek Improvement District is set to dissolve in June 2023, but it's still unclear who will assume control and who will be responsible for the jurisdiction's roughly $1 billion in debts.

    FOX Business’ David Asman asked Patronis how Florida taxpayers can avoid getting a bill for the Reedy Creek Improvement District's roughly $1 billion in debt.

    "Disney and Reedy Creek, this relationship still exists until next year. I do not see anywhere that this is going to change, as Disney is going to be obligated for that debt," Patronis explained.

    "The legislature is going to meet again at least two more times between now and that 2023 deadline, where any of this could be manipulated to ensure Disney still pays the debts they originally applied for… Disney has got some expectations. The Florida legislature has got some expectations, and we'll see how that unfolds over the next year."
     
    #6686     May 19, 2022
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    An alternative to your deranged fantasy of hatred is precisely what I said before: Disney has backed off and is negotiating quietly with DeSantis for peace.

    But the NPC knows all. About everything. Can't tell the NPC anything, he'll always choose to insert foot in mouth whenever he can.
     
    #6687     May 19, 2022
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Disney backed off? LOL.

    Provide an example of "Disney backing off".

    They are about to host the largest gay month event in history at Disney World -- complete with protests against the "don't say gay" legislation.
     
    #6688     May 19, 2022
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    When was the last time Disney was active in the media, the public or anywhere where they are pushing against DeSantis, Florida or the legislation. Post just one example of activism from Disney that is recent. And I don't mean the employees.
     
    #6689     May 19, 2022
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    DeSantis wants to sue and lock up reporters who outline pesky facts he does not like. How Soviet of him. Guess DeSantis does not like the First Amendment. He's tired of all the "fake news" reporting the actual facts -- instead of his narrative.

    DeSantis’ Office Pushed for a Bill to Weaken Media’s Protections Against Defamation Suits by Public Figures
    https://www.mediaite.com/politics/d...s-against-defamation-suits-by-public-figures/

    A top staffer for Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) pushed for a bill that would have weakened a key legal argument media outlets have used to defend themselves against defamation lawsuits by public figures, according to a report by The Orlando Sentinel.

    A public records request revealed DeSantis’ legislative affairs director, Stephanie Kopelousos, emailed staffers for several legislators, including State Sen. President Wilton Simpson (R) and State Sen. Jennifer Bradley (R), to promote a draft bill that would “challenge decades-old First Amendment protections for the news media and make it easier for high-profile people to win defamation lawsuits,” wrote the Sentinel’s Skyler Swisher.

    No bill was ever actually filed, but the correspondence does shed light into both the mindset of the governor’s office and what agenda items he may support if he is elected to a second term in November.

    The issue centers around a legal standard established in the 1964 U.S. Supreme Court case of New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, in which the court ruled that a plaintiff who is a public figure must prove not only the standard elements of a defamation case (publication of a false defamatory statement to a third party) but also prove “that the statement was made with ‘actual malice’ – that is, with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not.”

    The Sullivan “actual malice” standard was a key factor in a judge’s dismissal of former Gov. Sarah Palin’s (R-AK) lawsuit against the New York Times in February, with the judge noting “the law sets a very high standard” and Palin had failed to meet it in her complaint. (The jury was allowed to finish their deliberations and reached the same conclusion as the judge the very next day: the Times had not defamed Palin and was not liable.)

    Kopelousos’ emails, which were sent just before the 2022 general session kicked off Jan. 11, included both a draft of proposed legislation and a briefing document that “declared that the goal was to end federal standards established in the Times ruling and make defamation purely a matter of state law.”

    The draft bill would have attempted to make several notable changes to First Amendment law practice in Florida, mainly by changing how “actual malice” was determined, to instead view “a failure to validate or corroborate the alleged defamatory statement” as evidence of actual malice, a lower standard than the Supreme Court’s “reckless disregard” for the truth.

    The bill also redefined “public figure” to more limited categories, and presumed any statements at issue in defamation cases that were made by anonymous sources to be false.

    DeSantis’ office did not respond to the Sentinel’s request for comment.

    Former President Donald Trump frequently railed against libel laws when he was in office, calling them a “sham and disgrace” and vowing to “take a strong look at that” and pass new laws that better represented “fairness.” DeSantis’ rhetoric hasn’t gone quite that far, but he has often slammed the media for criticizing him and his spokesperson Christina Pushaw has gone to even further extremes.

    This bill was never submitted, but if it had been, it would have almost certainly set up a clash with existing Supreme Court precedent from Sullivan, but that isn’t the type of obstacle that would seem likely to slow down DeSantis or his GOP allies in the legislature.

    Republican state lawmakers have repeatedly shown their enthusiasm for carrying the governor’s water during this past year. For example, Bradley sponsored the DeSantis-backed bill to repeal Disney’s Reedy Creek special taxing district and the GOP-controlled House and Senate passed a constitutionally-dubious congressional district map handed to them by the governor’s office with nary a peep of objection from Republicans after DeSantis vetoed the one the legislature had created. Both those bills passed in a less-than-a-week special session with no Republican dissent.
     
    #6690     May 19, 2022