DeSantis for the win

Tsing Tao · Jul 29, 2021

gwb-trading said:
Coronavirus Variant begins spreading rapidly across Florida. No, no, ANOTHER one.

Welcome to Florida -- otherwise known as COVID Central.

Another coronavirus variant has reached Florida. Here's what you need to know.
https://news.yahoo.com/another-coronavirus-variant-reached-florida-192854583.html

A coronavirus variant discovered in Colombia is showing up among patients in South Florida, increasing infections and putting health officials on alert as calls grow louder for unvaccinated individuals to get inoculated.

Carlos Migoya, CEO of Jackson Health System, told WPLG in Miami earlier this week that the B.1.621 variant has accounted for about 10% of coronavirus patients, trailing behind delta, the now dominant variant in the United States that's been ravaging the nation's unvaccinated, and the gamma variant. B.1.621 has yet to receive a Greek-letter designation as more prominent variants have.

Migoya told the news station that he speculated B.1.621 is likely rising in South Florida because of international travel between Colombia and Miami, which serves as a gateway to Latin America.

A person who replied to an email sent from The Washington Post to Migoya's office said he was unavailable to comment.

Health experts will keep B.1.621 on their radar as the fall season looms and as parts of the country still lag in their vaccination efforts, experts told The Post.

The earliest documented samples of B.1.621 were noted in January, and at least 16 cases have been recently reported in the United Kingdom, where health officials have noted that the majority of cases linked to the variant were the result of international travel.

Public Health England noted last week that there is currently no evidence to indicate that the variant causes more severe disease or evades the efficacy of vaccines. Yet, the agency has designated the variant to be under investigation as it continues to conduct lab testing to better understand the impact mutations have on the coronavirus.

The European Centre for Disease Control and Prevention has also chosen to assign the variant as one of interest, as evidence could suggest significant impact, but also noting that much of the data is preliminary and marked with many questions.

In the United States, the variant has yet to be named a variant of interest of concern, accounting for just more than 2.1% of cases as of July 17, noted John Sellick, a professor at the Jacobs School of Medicine and Biomedical Sciences at the University at Buffalo.

"The only time it becomes important is if it gives virus selective advantage, which we've seen with delta variant," he said. "We'll see with this one. . . . What we have to see is two weeks from now, or four weeks from now, is this going to do another trick and wind up being more?"

Sellick noted how quickly the delta variant went from accounting for just more than 10% of cases at the beginning of June to more than 80% of cases by mid July.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is monitoring more than 10 other variants in addition to B.1.621 that's popping up in South Florida.

Only time will provide more information about B.1.621, Sellick said.

"If this thing is really more transmissible and goes from two percent [of infections] to 30 percent or to 60 percent; we don't want to see that," he said. "It has to be more fit than the delta variant. It would have to be more transmissible."

It doesn't take much time for variants to spread, especially among unvaccinated people, said Preeti N. Malani, chief health officer and a professor of medicine in the Division of Infectious Diseases at the University of Michigan.

Malani pointed to drug company Biogen's annual leadership conference in February 2020, from which the coronavirus spread across Massachusetts and the country, as an example of how quickly variants can spread.

"If you have a lot of unvaccinated people gathering and then they're going back home, you could have very rapid transmission in few weeks," she said.

Concerns about variants really set in when they are more contagious or elude the vaccine, she said.

Many worries about variants and further infections can be mitigated with more people choosing to get vaccinated, but that effort has become like a "whack-a-mole" initiative as new variants emerge and fears about vaccination hinder progress, she said.

"This concept of risk is interesting. We understand we take risks with a lot of things," she said, mentioning car travel or late-night dog walks as examples. "With coronavirus, that risk seems so high to some to and others it's not. [The risk is] somewhere in the middle. The risk of vaccination is really rare. As we move forward, the risk is not going to go to zero anytime soon."

As the Delta variant continues to cause havoc across the country along with other coronavirus variants making their debut in new infections, it might be time to reconsider travel and social plans even if one is vaccinated, experts say.

"This is a novel coronavirus. We're still learning about it," Malani said. "Each of these variants bring new challenges."
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From the moron who brought you the hysteria about the B.117 variant (which went nowhere) comes....B1.621!!!!

(suspense music)

the good thing about all these supposed variants is the list we can create when none of them end the world. You can become known as the Boy Who Cried Variant!

gwb-trading · Jul 29, 2021

Tsing Tao said:
Doesn't matter if the "large majority" comes in. There are many indians who come in illegally through the southern border.

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Remind me again what variant was in India?

Hell, you were whining like a girl about 38 cases that went to North Carolina from Florida. You don't think at least 38 Indians cross the border to go into other states given the above illegal population estimate?

do you believe the shit that comes out of your mouth or are you just hoping someone else will?
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Indians do not come over the southern border... they fly to the United States as tourists and stay on illegally to become "illegal immigrants" -- just like people from European countries have done.

Tsing Tao · Jul 29, 2021

gwb-trading said:
Indians do not come over the southern border... they fly to the United States as tourists and stay on illegally to become "illegal immigrants" -- just like people from European countries have done.
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Is NPR discredited by Facebook? Can I use it as a source?

More Migrants From India Try To Get Into U.S. From Mexico

Before the pandemic, 100 times more Indians were being detained annually on the U.S.-Mexico border, compared to 10 years ago. Officials say the economic migrants believe smugglers promising asylum.

Tsing Tao · Jul 29, 2021

Again, right, GWB?

gwb-trading · Jul 29, 2021

Tsing Tao said:
Is NPR discredited by Facebook? Can I use it as a source?

More Migrants From India Try To Get Into U.S. From Mexico

Before the pandemic, 100 times more Indians were being detained annually on the U.S.-Mexico border, compared to 10 years ago. Officials say the economic migrants believe smugglers promising asylum.

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Before the pandemic

Show us how many Indians are attempting to cross the border since the pandemic. The numbers are very low.

Seeing that only 2000 Indians live in Mexico. And the number of Indian tourists going to Mexico is low -- there are not very many Indians sneaking over the border when compared to other groups. Let's take a look at the numbers.

Only 311 Indians were caught crossing the border from Mexico at the peak of an enforcement action exercise in 2019 -- this is when Indian border crossing was at its height due to Trump immigration policies. For 2019 as a whole a total 7,675 Indians were apprehended by the CBP during the surge in 2019.

Only 33,000 tourist arrived from Southeast Asia to Mexico in 2019. This would set the maximum limit on the number who would be potentially be coming across the border -- of course noting that Indians are just a sub-set within the Southeast Asia group. Of course Mexico is trying to build up to 200,000 Indian tourists by 2022 -- but this objective set in 2018 is unlikely to happen. As noted -- the number of visitors from India to Mexico in 2016 based on country of origin was 22,431.

Of course in 2020/2021 almost no Indians are crossing... as outlined below...

Fewer Indians Are Crossing Over to US, And COVID Isn’t Just Why
The Trump administration’s crackdown on illegal immigrants is one reason why the border arrivals are declining.
https://www.thequint.com/us-nri-news/why-fewer-indian-refugees-are-migrating-to-the-us#read-more

"After sharply declining in 2020, the count of Indian refugees being apprehended at the Southern border hasn’t started rising significantly yet, as observed by attorneys and volunteers who work directly with Indian asylum seekers."

Trying to claim that many Indians are crossing the southern U.S. border spreading the Delta variant is absurd.

ElCubano · Jul 29, 2021

Tsing Tao said:
Still feel the same?

Ok, I'm done for today. There's only so much fun a guy can have.
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gwb-trading · Jul 29, 2021

Great job DeSantis -- so much "winning".

Florida virus cases soar, hospitals near last summer's peak
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...thony-fauci-miami-orange-county-b1893346.html

gwb-trading · Jul 30, 2021

What is DeSantis going to do now that local cities, counties and school systems are ignoring him and imposing mask & vaccine mandates to protect public health. Is he going to waste more taxpayer money in court trying to impose his will for political purposes while attempting to kill off the population of his state. This appears to be a wholesale revolt against DeSantis' stupidity.

Mayors of 2 Florida counties have broken with Gov. Ron DeSantis and imposed vaccine and mask mandates
https://www.insider.com/mayor-flori...s-break-desantis-vaccine-mask-mandates-2021-7

Broward school board agrees to impose face mask mandate starting Aug. 18
Broward school chair: ‘There is no way in good conscience that I could ... not have a mask mandate’
https://www.local10.com/news/local/...sidering-face-mask-mandate-at-public-schools/

Gov. Ron DeSantis' legal team reviewing Leon County vaccination mandate, spokesperson says
But the county adminstrator said "the governor is the least of my concerns right now."
https://www.tallahassee.com/story/n...g-leon-county-vaccination-mandate/5417992001/

gwb-trading · Jul 30, 2021

Florida hospital system declares code black due to surge in COVID-19 patients
https://bnonews.com/index.php/2021/...declares-code-black-due-to-coronavirus-surge/

The AdventHealth hospital system has put its Central Florida Division on code black due to a surge in patients who are suffering from COVID-19, officials say, adding that the number of patients has surpassed the previous peak in January.

A statement from AdventHealth said the hospital system was treating about 1,000 COVID-19 patients across its Central Florida Division, which includes Orange, Osceola, Seminole, Lake, Polk, Volusia and Flagler counties. This surpasses the peak of about 900 in January.The AdventHealth hospital system has put its Central Florida Division on code black due to a surge in patients who are suffering from COVID-19, officials say, adding that the number of patients has surpassed the previous peak in January.

A statement from AdventHealth said the hospital system was treating about 1,000 COVID-19 patients across its Central Florida Division, which includes Orange, Osceola, Seminole, Lake, Polk, Volusia and Flagler counties. This surpasses the peak of about 900 in January.

“AdventHealth Central Florida will move to ‘black’ status and will defer non-emergency surgeries at hospitals throughout the division,” the statement said. It added that all hospital-based outpatient procedures will also be deferred, though time-sensitive pediatric procedures can be conducted with approval of the chief medical officer.

“Cases continue to rise sharply with no sign that the surge is beginning to decelerate,” said Dr. Neil Finlder, chief clinical officer of the Central Florida Division. “This important step will help us create more resources for our clinical teams, and ensure that we can continue to care for our community.”

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Tsing Tao · Jul 30, 2021

gwb-trading said:
Before the pandemic

Show us how many Indians are attempting to cross the border since the pandemic. The numbers are very low.
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Ah, so now it's very low, whereas before you said no indians came across the southern border.

As I said, you were whining about 38 cases of documented (supposedly) Delta cases going from Florida to NC, but somehow you think that "very low" cases of illegal Indian immigrants has no effect.

Again, you demonstrate your complete inability to think critically.