DeSantis for the win

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, May 21, 2020.


  1. Doubt the GOP DA will pursue this case because the law was never meant for protests they approve of
     
    #4171     Jun 24, 2021
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    So no source on the cancelation data you quoted? Not surprised!
     
    #4172     Jun 25, 2021
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I totally agree, this legislation is overreach by the government. Unfortunately, it is the only thing stopping asinine things like CRT from being taught in schools. So I understand why they felt they had to pass it.
     
    #4173     Jun 25, 2021
  4. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    This is fine for public schools where teachers are to teach, and not indoctrinate our children. Private schools? --Do what you want. ----One thing about the lock-downs and riots is that parents are beginning to wake up in this country.
     
    #4174     Jun 25, 2021
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    The DeSantis doctrine
    DeSantis is perfectly positioned to become the next Republican leader — if Trump steps aside

    June 22, 2021 | 3:25 pm
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    Florida governor Ron DeSantis (Joe Raedle/Getty)


    The term ‘Florida man’ usually comes loaded with negative connotations, but not if you’re talking about Ron DeSantis. The first-term Republican governor’s approval ratings have reached 64 percent; a recent poll had him at 55 percent, still high for an unabashed conservative in a swing state. Enterprising apparel companies are already selling ‘DeSantis 2024’ gear — and a Trafalgar poll of likely contenders (excluding Trump) shows DeSantis leading the pack with 35 percent support among Republican voters. The Florida governor also bested Trump in a straw poll conducted during June’s Western Conservative Summit in Denver.

    DeSantis’s handling of the COVID-19 pandemic has earned him adoration from the right. He refused to issue a mask mandate, ordered a shorter lockdown than almost any other state, kept kids in schools and protected the elderly in nursing homes — all while managing a below-average case and death rate. These policies, along with better weather and lower taxes, have enticed thousands of Americans to the Sunshine State.

    It’s difficult to understand DeSantis’s appeal without talking about Donald Trump. Trump is still the party’s de facto leader and he’s publicly flirting with running in 2024. The centrist, hawkish wing of the Republicans — Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, et al. — and the DC pundit class believe that the party will return to ‘normal’ if Trump and his alleged personality cult fade into the night. But they have never understood that Trump was a vessel for nationalist and populist ideas that had simmered for years. A recent Quinnipiac poll shows that policy now precedes personality: more Republican voters want the winner of the 2024 primary to align with Trump on the issues than want Trump to run again.


    DeSantis is Trumpian on policy: anti-establishment, tough on immigration, against Big Tech monopolies and censorship, willing to fight culture wars, pro-worker, skeptical of war — ‘America First’ without the baggage. He’s bombastic and funny, but more palatable and less petty or offensive than Trump. Florida Republicans tell me that he is not a ‘natural politician’. He keeps a tight circle of friends and advisers, deeply understands policy and the law (a rare case of a Harvard law degree going to good use) and is unbothered by unflattering portrayals from the media and political opponents.

    Trump handicapped himself through his inability to surround himself with good people. His staffers were either incompetent or were working against his agenda at every turn. DeSantis keeps tight control over his ship. He has high standards and thus a high turnover, but he understands policy and law — and runs an efficient team and a leak-proof administration. ‘His people will make you a pariah if you are disloyal to DeSantis,’ the Florida commentator John Cardillo says. ‘In Trumpworld it was the other extreme. You only became a pariah if you were loyal to Trump.’

    DeSantis takes a similar approach to the media: reward your friends and punish your enemies. Reporters who treat him fairly get access and exclusives. The venomous and biased are frozen out and publicly humiliated. When 60 Minutes dubiously linked Florida’s partnering with Publix for its vaccine rollout to the grocery chain’s $100,000 donation to DeSantis’s campaign, DeSantis managed to have nearly every principal involved in the story speak out on his behalf, including Democrats.

    ‘Maybe the best way to understand Ron DeSantis — who came out of nowhere for a lot of Americans outside Florida — is to know that he was a longtime Rush Limbaugh listener,’ says David Reaboi, a political communications consultant who lives in Miami Beach. ‘It’s not surprising that the governor has been on the leading edge of things conservatives care about, like Big Tech censorship, the trans issue or critical race theory. Conservatives really get a sense that DeSantis is “one of us”, because he is.’

    Kristi Noem, the governor of South Dakota, thought she would retain the base’s loyalty after she refused to implement a mask mandate. But that goodwill vanished when she vetoed a bill banning biological men from competing in women’s sports. DeSantis signed a similar bill in Florida, then took on Big Tech, the Chinese Communist party and the cruise lines that wanted to require vaccine passports for passengers.

    DeSantis’s critics claim his legislative victories are merely performative and will get struck down by courts. Others worry he is seeking state solutions to federal problems. DeSantis insists that he won’t sign ‘symbolic’ measures because there would be ‘no point’. When I asked him about potential lawsuits in response to his bill fining Big Tech for deplatforming political candidates, he had a coherent legal defense ready.


    John Cardillo believes DeSantis is a ‘brilliant’ policymaker who understands how to use the law to his advantage. ‘What he’s doing in Florida is a macrocosm of what Giuliani did in New York City. DeSantis really understands how to make the law work to promote a conservative agenda. It’s something Democrats do all the time and I think it’s something that DeSantis internalized.’

    DeSantis’s success is no accident. He is perfectly positioned to become the next leader of the Republican party. The only question now is whether Trump will step aside and hand DeSantis the reins.

    ‘Trump was a transformational figure for the country, but he had serious limitations — interestingly enough, Trump’s biggest weaknesses are exactly DeSantis’s strengths,’ Reaboi observes. ‘Once the wall has been broken through, there’s very little left for someone like Trump to do. I hope Trump realizes that he was able to contribute something of real, transformative value — and allows for DeSantis to take the next lap.’

    This article was originally published in The Spectator’s July 2021 World edition.
     
    #4175     Jun 25, 2021
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  7. Good...then you will not mind when Dems use it also....

    CRT has nothing to do with a job at a university or with the state and the law will be shit on so fast by any court. That rationale makes so sense when an accountant at U of F has to declare their political affiliation to get the job.

    Remember when you give you fucktarded pals a weapon your enemy gets it as well.

    This proves you truly are blind to offenses on your own side if this law is ok by you...it worked in Germany for a few years I guess and in the 1950s in the U.S. What could go wrong? There is nothing that makes this law understandable except knee jerk reactions to Fox News hysteria.

    Where in Florida is CRT an official part of the State curriculum?
     
    #4177     Jun 25, 2021
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  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    there are plenty examples of parents who have had to go to school boards about what is being taught, with CRT being just one of the issues the parents are rallying against. If it is not widespread in Florida at this point and this legislation is preventive, fine.

    As for being OK if Democrats do it, they already use underhanded tactics to censor and determine and log political affiliation - deeming anyone who does not agree with them a "Trumper" or a "QaNon" or whatever to cancel accordingly. I used to believe that the road to peace and moral dignity would be to take the high ground. I'm not so sure anymore. Now I think it is a war between you folks and us folks. So if we have to follow paths I wouldn't normally throw my support behind, I don't give a fuck anymore.

    Clutch at your pearls if you feel the need to.
     
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2021
    #4178     Jun 25, 2021
  9. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    I still doubt that Trump will run in 2024. I mean, he will definitely play with his food but I don't think he will throw down again and run.
     
    #4179     Jun 25, 2021
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I'm with you. I believe he plays Kingmaker in the GOP.
     
    #4180     Jun 25, 2021