Reason magazine is straight Liberatirian It humorous to me that you , who leads ET in total words posted, got caught just reading headlines and then summarizes content from a headline
I find it difficult you have not be able to read all the recently posted content to this thread about DeSantis and his cronies being absolutely gleeful about someone they dislike being de-platformed... which served to show how much of a hypocrite he is. At this point... DeSantis celebrating Twitter's Ban of Rebekah Jones is an accepted fact, there is no debate around it. You can read his own words in the previous posts.
yes, now I understand your thought process to this SPECIFIC article You admit you mis-characterized this article from only reading the headline.but that previous postings have created your narrative that this headline fits into....so the actual content of the article is less important then the headline Life to you is all narrative...welcome to the left
Since it is obvious that DeSantis and his cronies gleefully celebrated the de-platforming of Rebekah Jones -- the article does not really need to expand on this point. You should really keep up with the entire thread of recent events in context.
“The question here is whether Governor DeSantis will claim that Celebrity has violated the intent and spirit of the law. If he doesn’t, as I expect that he won’t, this will prove that this was a political stunt to appeal to his base.” Celebrity Cruises Has A Workaround For DeSantis’ Vaccine Passport Ban, Sort Of https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzann...ebrity-cruises-desantis-vaccine-passport-ban/ Tick tock. As cruise lines move full steam ahead on plans to sail from U.S. ports this summer, it’s clear that they are still ironing out some not-so-minor details. Granted, they are in a very tough spot when it comes to sailings out of Florida, home of the three busiest cruise ports in the United States. For cruise operators, their mission impossible is to figure out how to follow both the guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Protection (CDC) — which recommends that 98% of crew and 95% of passengers on a ship be vaccinated before setting sail — and avoid violating a much-hyped law from Florida Governor Ron DeSantis that prohibits businesses in his state from verifying the vaccination status of individuals. Thefirst ship slated to sail out of Florida in 15 months isCelebrity Edge,which willdepart Fort Lauderdale on June 26 on a seven-night cruise to the Western Caribbean. That’s just the beginning. By mid-summer, nine of the cruise line’s 15 ships will be operating out of Florida and other ports. On a call with travel agents on Tuesday, Dondra Ritzenthaler, senior VP of sales, trade support and service at Celebrity Cruises, outlined how Celebrity plans to thread the needle to stay on the right side of both the CDC guidance and the Florida law, according a scoop in the unofficial Royal Caribbean Blog, which is not affiliated with the cruise line.Forbes has also obtained a recording of the June 8 call. For context, this is the second such call within two weeks where Ritzenthaler has outlined a possible workaround to travel advisors.Forbes previously obtained a recording of a May 27 call where Ritzenthaler told agents that the DeSantis administration and major cruise lines had discussed a possible exemption to the Florida law for cruise lines. A DeSantis spokesperson denied that the governor had ever considered such an exemption and told reporters that Forbes had “misinterpreted” Ritzenthaler’s comments from that call. Throughout Tuesday’s 46-minute call, Ritzenthaler outlined the CDC guidance and reiterated multiple times that 95% of passengers on all Celebrity ships would be fully vaccinated. “We will require documentation of full vaccination from all guests who are eligible,” she said. “This is for everybody, but Florida is a little bit different, okay?” “Florida — because we honor the government, we honor DeSantis — we will still go out with 100% of our crew and 95% of our guests vaccinated. But in Florida, we will not require you to have to show proof of vaccination, because we are doing this exactly the right way,” said Ritzenthaler. “Our President and CEO, Lisa Lutoff-Perlo, right before this call, said, ‘Dondra, you reassure every travel adviser on this call that we will sail with 95% of our guests vaccinated,’” said Ritzenthaler, who did not explain in detail how Celebrity would accomplish this feat except to suggest that, instead of verifying passengers’ vaccination records at the port on embarkation day, Celebrity would manage the ratio of vaccinated-to-unvaccinated guests during the booking process. “Guys, the way we’re going to do that is we’re going to manage the sailing, right?” she told the hundreds of agents on the call. “We're going to make sure that we open some cabin categories. We close some cabin categories. We are going to make sure that 95% of our guests are vaccinated.” That would mean that only five percent of any ship’s inventory for any sailing would be made available to unvaccinated passengers. At the end of the call, Ritzenthaler fielded a question from a travel advisor asking for additional clarity on how the cruise line would achieve the 95% vaccination threshold. “That’s not anything you have to worry about,” Ritzenthaler reiterated. “We’re going to manage that. We’ve got codes, we’ve got, you know, if we have to shut down cabin categories or open cabin categories, we are going to make sure that’s on us, not you.” Some cruise industry watchers see these machinations as the unfortunate result of Florida’s politicization of vaccine verifications. “Celebrity is engaging in a convoluted process to avoid the appearance of inquiring into the vaccine status of its customers,” said Jim Walker, a maritime attorney who runs the popular Cruise Law News blog. “The question here is whether Governor DeSantis will claim that Celebrity has violated the intent and spirit of the law. If he doesn’t, as I expect that he won’t, this will prove that this was a political stunt to appeal to his base.” Forbes reached out to a Celebrity Cruises spokesperson for more information and received the following statement: “We are working to finalize our health and safety measures for cruises departing from U.S. ports, including Florida, in collaboration with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, local and state authorities as well as the destinations we visit. We are encouraged by the ongoing dialogue and the health and safety of crew, guests and communities we visit, remain our highest priority.”
It is actually easy to do and something airlines do all the time for other reasons. Someone calls to book a cruise and they say they are vaccinated and can prove it, the booking gets access to the entire ship of available cabins. Someone calls and refuses to prove or authenticate vaccination (which means they are not), the booking gets access to the 5% segregated cabins available until they are sold out.. When the ship sails the cruise gets to claim 95% vaccinated but they did not require vaccine passports to board the ship. Win Win
Seeing that Celebrity is requiring you to upload a scan of your vaccination card with your signed cruise documents before you go on the cruise -- they are all set to know which cruisers are vaccinated before the cruise starts and will not require cruisers to present their vaccine cards at the port. Also keep in mind that doing this in advance also gives the cruise line time to validate the card with databases to ensure it is not fake.
What Does Cruise Line Gamble Mean for Florida and DeSantis? Cruising companies continue to shift course in the wake of federal guidelines and new state laws surrounding COVID-19 vaccine requirements. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...ps-florida-gov-desantis-in-high-seas-standoff Gov. Ron DeSantis is betting the cruise industry will help revive Florida tourism because it's too big to fail or flee. He may be gambling more than the state has to lose. (More at above url)
There is also a chance that in a short period of time... (absent new variants) Covid will be so low that no one is going to care anymore. I am not saying that will happen I am simply stating that with half the population vaccinated and presumably much of the other half low risk... the only people who will be dying are the really dumb high risk or the high risk who can't take the vaccine for some medical reason... and perhaps maybe Christian Scientists.