DeSantis for the win

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, May 21, 2020.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Because I don't read my hometown newspaper. Though I did use it for bird cage droppings once. Maybe you should read the news beyond the headline you spam over and over. If you did, you might know what was going on outside of the headline.

    Do they have crappy papers like that in the Chapel Hill area as well?
     
    #4081     Jun 4, 2021
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    GWB - WRONG AGAIN. Someone should keep count. hahahaahahah....

    DeSantis. Winning.


    Royal Caribbean reverses, won’t require passengers on U.S. cruises to be vaccinated

    By Taylor Dolven

    June 04, 2021 06:20 PM,

    Royal Caribbean International will no longer require any of its cruise passengers to be vaccinated for COVID-19 as it had previously planned to.

    In a press release Friday announcing cruises for sale on eight of its ships from U.S. ports this summer, starting with Freedom of the Seas from PortMiami on July 2, the company said it will recommend passengers get the COVID-19 vaccine, but not require it. The announcement is a reversal from previous statements andvaccine protocols the company submitted to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention last month that said it would require all passengers at least 18 years old and older to be vaccinated.

    “Guests are strongly recommended to set sail fully vaccinated, if they are eligible,” the company said in a statement. “Those who are unvaccinated or unable to verify vaccination will be required to undergo testing and follow other protocols, which will be announced at a later date.”

    The about-face is an apparent submission to Gov. Ron DeSantis, who has insisted that there will be no exception made for cruise companies to a newly passed Florida law that fines companies $5,000 each time they ask a patron to provide proof of vaccination. Royal Caribbean International’s sister brand Celebrity Cruises (both owned by Royal Caribbean Group) is still requiring all passengers 16 years old or older be vaccinated on its seven-night Caribbean cruises that are restarting from Port Everglades on June 26.

    Lyan Sierra-Caro, a spokesperson for Royal Caribbean International, said the plans to require passengers be vaccinated that the company submitted to the CDC only applied to its test cruises. According to CDC rules, cruise ships that don’t meet certain vaccination thresholds for passengers and crew must first do a successful test cruise before they can restart revenue cruises.

    “Our intention is to comply with all federal, state and local laws,” she said via email.

    On May 26, the cruise line updated its website to say that passengers 16 years old and older on its cruises from Seattle and The Bahamas are required to be vaccinated. Previously, the website said passengers 16 years old and older on all of the company’s U.S. cruises had to meet the requirement.

    In a statement CEO Michael Bayley thanked DeSantis and other elected officials for their support of the industry, which has been paralyzed since it was forced to shut down in March 2020 after COVID-19 outbreaks and deaths on several ships.

    “As of today, 90% of all vacationers booking with Royal Caribbean are either vaccinated or planning to get vaccinated in time for their cruise,” Bayley said in a statement. The company said all crew members will be vaccinated.

    The recently passed Florida law crafted by the Republican-controlled state Legislature and promoted by Gov. Ron DeSantis bars businesses, schools and government entities across Florida from asking anyone to provide proof of a COVID-19 vaccination. Under the law, which takes effect on July 1, businesses can be fined up to $5,000 per violation.

    It is unclear if cruise companies will be allowed to ask passengers if they have been vaccinated as part of the boarding process, even if they don’t require vaccination to board.

    The summer cruises announced by Royal Caribbean International Friday are still pending approval from the CDC after each ship successfully completes a test cruise with volunteer passengers.

    The CDC has so far approved nine cruise ships, including Freedom of the Seas, Carnival Horizon and MSC Meraviglia from PortMiami, for test cruises, meaning the ships won’t meet a CDC threshold of 95% of passengers and 98% of crew be vaccinated, and two ships — Celebrity Edge and Celebrity Equinox from Port Everglades — for revenue cruises.

    This story has been updated to include a comment from Royal Caribbean International.
     
    #4082     Jun 5, 2021
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  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    What a loser.

     
    #4083     Jun 5, 2021
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  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Let's be sure you still understand the following:

    1) ALL passengers on Royal Caribbean will still be required to provide their vaccination status and proof of it if they claim to be vaccinated. Those who are not vaccinated will be required to go through addition testing and follow other protocols on the ships -- which may include wearing a mask. “Those who are unvaccinated or unable to verify vaccination will be required to undergo testing and follow other protocols."

    2) Royal Caribbean caters to families. Many children cannot be vaccinated yet. Due to this Royal Caribbean has followed the test cruise protocol to allow the cruise line to avoid having to stick with a 95% threshold for passenger vaccinations -- assuming CDC approval.

    3) Celebrity Cruise lines, a subsidiary of RCL, is doing the first cruises out of Florida in late June. Celebrity Cruises still requires proof of vaccination and will meet the 95% threshold. Celebrity caters to an older crowd with fewer children onboard.


    P.S. -- I thought you claimed to never read the Miami Herald which you claim to be a liberal anti-DeSantis rag. I guess this is why you tried to hide the source and did not provide the url in clear text.
     
    #4084     Jun 5, 2021
  5. jem

    jem

    For now you can board without a vaccine passport...
    They changed... .


     
    #4085     Jun 5, 2021
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So what is DeSantis going to do about cruise lines still requiring proof of vaccination (aka "vaccine passport") if you claim to be vaccinated. Does the governor have any backbone at all? Or is he all wind?
     
    #4086     Jun 5, 2021
  7. jem

    jem

    Look asshole...you were wrong. Just admit it. At the moment I don't care what De Santis does..I am just happy some leaders are not fascists like you and Fauci.
     
    #4087     Jun 5, 2021
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  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    If I had to guess (I don’t pretend to know the future like you do - which is why you always come off looking like a tool) other cruise lines will fall in line with RC now that the base is set.

    And DeSantis might accept that compromise as a total win - and he’d be right.

    You were spectacularly wrong on this.

    if you hadn’t shot your mouth off repeatedly like you knew the future it wouldn’t have been so funny (at your expense). So thank you for that. Keep being you, bro.
     
    #4088     Jun 5, 2021
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Good luck with your fantasy. You do realize that the first cruise ship set to sail from Florida in late June is Celebrity Cruises Edge on June 26th. Celebrity Cruises, a subsidiary of RCL, still requires adult passengers without exemptions to be vaccinated to hit the 95% threshold. What is Ron DeSantis going to do about this -- just blather and push more wind.

    Once again I am completely correct -- and you are just trying to drive a twisted narrative.
     
    #4089     Jun 5, 2021
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Oh yeah, you're "completely correct".

    You said cruise lines would avoid Florida. I can get your posts if you want. You said DeSantis would cave or the cruise industry would decimate Florida by abandoning it.

    And then the literal opposite happened, and the RC caved.

    Literally the opposite of what you said. Again.

    Even your friends at the liberal MiamiHerald call this a complete reversal by Royal Caribbean.
     
    #4090     Jun 5, 2021