DeSantis for the win

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, May 21, 2020.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    But....no proof that Florida did anything to them, right? Just conjecture. Like always.

    You might have been happier in Soviet Russia. You seem to have the right attitude.

    Right, right. Trump again. Trumpy trump!

    Because the UK and Italy, that have higher death count per MM, they're not a "leadership" issue because they didn't have Trumpy Trump!

    You = clown. just like Trump. Only a different type of clown.
     
    #3541     Apr 8, 2021
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    DeSantis = CLOWN Just a different type of Trump clown.
     
    #3542     Apr 8, 2021
  3. jem

    jem

    How do you know it was not people from the north bringing their Covid to Florida.


    If you ever lived in Florida in an area with tourists... you would see all your friends getting the flu or colds at the start of tourist season.

    Might apply to Covid too.



     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2021
    #3543     Apr 8, 2021
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    DeSantis: State will sue to get cruises sailing again
    https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story...-cruise-ships-sailing-immediately/7139415002/

    Gov. Ron DeSantis announced Thursday that Florida will sue the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to end the drydocking of the cruise industry.

    For nearly 10 months, cruise ships were prevented from leaving ports with passengers by a no-sail order issued by the CDC. That order was replaced on Nov. 1 with a "conditional" sail order that require cruise lines to get approval from the CDC of their safety plans before setting sail.

    "Florida is fighting back," the governor said, flanked by cruise line employees and state and local officials. "This is not reasonable. This is not rational."

    More:DeSantis' vaccine passport ban confounds cruise lines' reopening plans

    Both DeSantis and others, including U.S. Rep. Carlos Gimenez, R-Miami, cited the proliferation of vaccines as a game changer that should let ships sail.

    But those assertions appear undermined by an executive order issued by DeSantis on April 2 preventing cruise lines and other industries from using vaccine documentation in conducting business.

    DeSantis' order banning businesses from requiring "vaccination passports" — documents that prove a person has been vaccinated - would have barred cruise lines operating in Florida from using government-issued vaccine cards as proof.

    DeSantis has prided himself on his anti-lockdown stance, especially getting Florida's tourism industry up and running. His vaccination-passport ban came as a surprise to some, who thought it would help hospitality businesses open to full capacity. To others, the executive order jibes with DeSantis' opposition to government interference in peoples' lives and privacy.

    "Requiring so-called COVID-19 vaccine passports for taking part in everyday life - such as attending a sporting event, patronizing a restaurant, or going to a movie theater — would create two classes of citizens based on vaccination," according to the executive order."

    A spokesman for NCL confirmed Monday evening that the cruise line would accept the cards as proof of vaccination.

    The CDC shut down the industry in mid-March 2020 when it issued a no-sail order. The ban has been replaced with a "conditional sail order," which requires cruise lines to detail their safety protocols and get permission from the CDC before re-opening.

    Proof of vaccinations for crew and passengers is now a requirement included in most cruise lines' safety plans. Mandatory vaccinations on cruise ships also aligns with safety protocols recommended by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and Federal Maritime Commission.

    ”We believe that through a combination of 100% mandatory vaccinations for guests and crew and science-backed public health measures as developed by the Healthy Sail Panel... we can create a safe, ‘bubble-like’ environment for guests and crew," wrote Frank Del Rio, president and CEO of Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings in a letter to the CDC on Monday.

    However, on Wednesday, the company backtracked, saying in a press release that it would require vaccinations for passengers and crew but that it is "premature" to set protocols for health and safety.

    "Given the ever-evolving nature of the pandemic, the accelerating rollout of the vaccine, and the speed of scientific learnings, it is premature to make decisions about our health and safety protocols for cruises with embarkation dates beginning Nov. 1, 2021," said Harry Sommer, NCL's President and Chief Executive Officer.

    The controversy over the restrictions DeSantis' order placed on cruise lines' boiled over on Monday, when Miami-Dade Mayor Daniella Levine Cava tweeted a statement reading: "Many of our cruise partners at PortMiami are leading the way in announcing their own new policies requiring pasengers and crew to be vaccinated."



    On Wednesday, Cava issued a statement saying she was encouraged by efforts at the CDC to get ships sailing again. She added: "I look forward to working with the Governor to ensure his executive order does not place undue regulations on the cruise industry partners who are working hard to prepare a safe re-opening."
     
    #3544     Apr 8, 2021
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Let's see what DeSantis' Republican buddies are up to Florida today...

    Florida Elections Commission lawyer charged with 11 counts child pornography
    https://www.wtxl.com/news/local-new...wyer-charged-with-11-counts-child-pornography

    The Leon County Sheriff’s Office is continuing its investigation after arresting a Florida state employee on 11 counts of possession of child pornography.

    According to court documents, Eric M. Lipman was arrested Tuesday on 11 counts of possession of child pornography after a six-week investigation.

    Lipman's photo and other information were withheld from the arrest report by Florida Statute 119.071(4) (d). Under the statute, current or former State Attorneys, Assistant State Attorneys, State Prosecutors, and Assistant State Prosecutors, active or former Law Enforcement Personnel, etc. may keep arrest information private.

    Tim Vaccaro, the Executive Director of the Florida Elections Commission confirmed to ABC 27 Lipman's employment as legal counsel for the Florida Elections Commission.

    "The Commission is fully cooperating with law enforcement’s investigation," said Vaccaro said in a statement to ABC 27. "The employee has been placed on administrative leave pending further information."

    Detectives with LCSO’s Internet Crimes Against Children Unit received a tip from The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children on Feb. 24 about possible child pornography being sent via a local e-mail, according to the report.

    LCSO said ddeputies, LCSO ICAC task for partners, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement and Homeland Security executed a residential search on Tuesday wherein the electronic evidence was discovered.

    The sheriff's office said this investigation is still open and active with additional charges pending.

    For a full list of qualifying exemptions under FS 119.071, click here.

    Republican voter registration record - https://voterrecords.com/voters/fl/eric+lipman-republican/1
     
    #3545     Apr 8, 2021
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Fine, then you're in good company. The three of you are clowns.
     
    #3546     Apr 8, 2021
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Because "Science", Jem. don't be a denier.
     
    #3547     Apr 8, 2021
    jem likes this.
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Even the most dimwitted recognize the variants appeared in Florida in large concentration first before these other states. This is why Florida also has a large majority of the variant cases in the U.S.; DeSantis let it run rampant.

    Even with DeSantis trying to hide the COVID variant case reporting by refusing to release the state information -- the federal government via testing facilities confirmed that Florida has always led the nation in COVID variant cases during 2021.
     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2021
    #3548     Apr 8, 2021
  9. jem

    jem

    You are going to have to produce some science and data for that.

    Let us start with the UK variant.
    Please produce data showing it was created in Florida.

    Then lets look at the variants which started in New York.
    Please produce data that say the variant which seems to have started in Washington heights was created in Florida.





     
    #3549     Apr 8, 2021
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Doesn't matter if they were noticed in Florida before other states. You have no possible way of knowing where they first came on shore unless you're aware of a patient zero, which of course you're not.

    And then speaking of "dimwitted", we're back to the DeSantis hiding data hilarity.
     
    #3550     Apr 8, 2021