Informational article... How long will it take for Florida to reach herd immunity? https://www.wesh.com/article/florida-herd-immunity-timeline/35621479 Over the past two months, nearly 1.5 million people have been fully vaccinated in Florida. Another 1.3 million have had at least their first dose. While the state's rollout has quickened some, the supply still isn't quite meeting the demand for doses. An increase is coming by Monday, however. State officials announced they're expecting a weekly allotment of 450,000 doses moving forward. That's around 2% of the state's population. With the current vaccines requiring two doses, it would take well into 2022 to reach herd, or community, immunity. "We've seen the range run between 70 and 90%," Cindy Prins said. Prins is an epidemiologist and professor at the University of Florida. She says the percentage needed to make the spread of COVID-19 unlikely depends on the effectiveness of the vaccines and how many people get them. "We seem to have a good vaccine or a couple of good vaccines, so I tend to look at about an 80% range of where we could be for herd immunity, but we don't have a good definition of that right now," Prins said. "If you have pockets of people choosing not to get vaccinated, that leaves an entire group of people vulnerable to potentially getting infected." About 17.5 million people would be 80% of the state's population. Data from the health department shows roughly 7% of Floridians are fully vaccinated. If you include everyone with one dose, or partial vaccination, that number is about 13%.
Interesting article. I appreciate you posting it. Whether it is truly 2022 or not is irrelevant because the state is functioning in all respects with no restrictions that I am aware of. That's just my personal opinion, which means zippo.
I will note that all the other states are in the same situation basically when it comes to "vaccinated herd immunity". Some states with smaller populations will have an advantage over time for reaching a "vaccinated herd immunity" level more quickly.
The sooner we get to an accepted level, the happier I will be. Not because I feel safer, but because those I know and love will be less neurotic.
It's why I used the word infection, not death. Front line workers are at most risk of infection and a prime CDC vax target since: A) are constantly dealing w/the infected B) Don't recall positivity rate being that much different among age groups* C) Can themselves become vectors (see A) in a place you don't want vectors D) Are the most needed and in short supply, so having them going on quarantine is detrimental *At the time of hotspot detection, the highest percent positivity was among persons aged 18–24 years (14%), followed by those aged 0–17 years (11%), 25–44 years (10%), 45–64 years (8%), and ≥65 years (6%). Percent positivity among persons aged 18–24 years was near its peak of 15% by the date of hotspot detection; however, among other age groups, percent positivity continued to increase for 21–33 days after hotspot detection, peaking at 10%–14%, and the decline for other age groups was slower than that for persons aged 18–24 years.
Just silly. From what GWB has said, federal guidelines emphasize vaccinating 75 and older. All Florida is doing is prioritizing 65 and older, 10 years younger. That's the ONLY difference. And given the massive elderly population in Florida, it is not hard to see that a "one size fits all" approach to national vaccination strategy would be slightly altered to lower the years a bit in a highly concentrated elderly population. Stop with the ridiculousness, please, both of you.
So DeSantis admits that Florida does not have a detailed vaccination plan -- mocks other states that have a proper vaccination plan. Then he proceeds with special events that vaccinate his donors and GOP supporters in wealthy communities with special VIP invite lists and holds press conferences threatening to take doses away any county that objects to these events. Somehow you believe this is an appropriate vaccination strategy -- the reality it is chaos and corruption.
Just because the CDC says something does not make it the only course or even the best course of action. These guys could not even get the stats correct regarding positive for infection and antibody tests. Also note.. from what I have read in many articles the vaccine is not designed to make someone immune. Many articles (though not all) stated people with the vaccine may still spread it.. so they may be or are still vectors after vaccination. b. Then you have to consider that many younger front line workers don't even want the vaccine. I know child bearing age women who have turned down the vaccine. I know younger people who have no desire for it who deal with the public everyday... (and probably have antibodies by now.) So again... local officials should do their best to take in all these factors. We don't need morons saying you must follow the CDC... That is not how our country was designed. For instance I despise what CA has done to school kids... If they keep it up... I will rent out my home go somewhere else for a few years... or at least we will seriously consider it. That is the beauty of local officials making rules... you can leave.
Please show where he "mocked other states" - and you can't include him defending Florida's approach by saying "other states don't do what we're doing". If you have an example of him going after other states first, please show it. As for the events, again, he didn't organize the event in Manatee. All Politicians do publicity events. If you have evidence of fraud or corruption DeSantis is guilty of, please provide it. I've asked you nearly a dozen times now, and you have nothing. As for an appropriate strategy, here is what is undeniably true: 1. DeSantis is pushing for the vaccination of all seniors - 65 and older. 2. The National Vaccination Strategy says 75 and older should be a focus, not 65-75. You have a problem with this. 3. The age bracket 65 to 74 represents 21% of all Floridian COVID deaths. This is not in dispute and is available in the demographics I've posted multiple times - I can do so again if you've "lost" the data. 4. Over 50,000 seniors from other states have come to Florida to get vaccinated because they couldn't do so in their state I call this a HUGE success. So do many Floridians. Your obsession with the guy is really unhealthy. How many people from North Carolina are so dysfunctional as to obsess over Florida every day?