DeSantis for the win

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, May 21, 2020.

  1. UsualName

    UsualName

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    Im not saying the data cannot be used but context is important. NY and NJ had a disproportionate number of Covid related deaths early and as treatment and care improved fatalities not only lowered in those states, they lowered across the board.

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    #2811     Jan 5, 2021
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Ok, I don't disagree with any of that. But in the context in which the list was posted (to combat an endless and unfair attack on DeSantis who is guilty of everything that is happening in his state whether or not he has any control over it) it is fair to hit Cuomo for what happened in his state regardless of whether or not he had control over it.

    That's my point.
     
    #2812     Jan 5, 2021
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Wrong again it would seem. Text with my mother.

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    #2813     Jan 5, 2021
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So you are just producing evidence that they were able to successfully register for the vaccines in New Jersey... despite experiencing problems earlier.

    Has anyone in Florida been able to register online or via phone for vaccination?
     
    #2814     Jan 5, 2021
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I'm producing anecdotal info that - out of two seniors in a household in NJ - only one was able to register successfully. As for people in Florida, I haven't the foggiest. You are the one claiming Florida is the exception, yet you show no data that says anything like "40% of people are able to register" (I'm making a number up) but in other states, 90% were, etc.

    You're trying to say Florida is messed up because of DeSantis. I'm willing to entertain it if you can ever provide results that show this to be the inarguable truth. The problem is all you have is conjecture and biased media that hates DeSantis spewing and shrieking editorals about how even the man is. We get it, you hate him. They hate him. I don't give a shit. Show me why he is worse than other governors. Show me how him being worse is making Florida death counts and case counts go up (because at the end of it all, that is what matters).

    And for the love of God, stop making shit up about people. I don't "push" Cabrera or some Kyle guy you mentioned.
     
    #2815     Jan 5, 2021
  6. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    So bookkeeper posts tweet that Florida is only worse than 28 other states. Not all 50. LMMFAO

    And about 28 other posts just today. Troll much.
     
    #2816     Jan 5, 2021
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Paper trader comes by to offer his .01.

    (.02 is too much to ask for with Paper Trader)

    If DeSantis were the devil incarnate, Florida wouldn't be as good as it is. That was the point. Congratulations on missing it (again)!
     
    #2817     Jan 6, 2021
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Ron DeSantis' craven dodge on Covid
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/05/opinions/ron-desantis-failed-constituents-covid-filipovic/index.html

    The coronavirus vaccine rollout in the United States has been riddled with problems, no matter where you look, but Florida seems to be an extra-special basket case.

    Some of the state's counties scheduled vaccine appointments via, of all things, the ticketing website Eventbrite -- an embarrassing effort that was quickly exploited by scammers. In some counties, websites crashed within minutes of opening up for vaccine enrollment. Phone lines went down for hours as thousands of people sought basic information about where, when and how to get inoculated.

    Elderly Floridians camped outside through a cold night and slept in their cars in an effort to get the vaccine.

    And when a reporter asked Gov. Ron DeSantis to explain why this was going terribly wrong, he snapped at her, acting condescendingly and ultimately refusing to fully answer. It was a stunning display of the know-nothing arrogance that got Florida -- and much of the rest of the country -- into this mess in the first place.

    The reporter, CNN's Rosa Flores, had a simple and legitimate question: "What has gone wrong with the rollout of the vaccine, phone lines jammed, website crashing -- " But DeSantis cut her off, then mocked and berated her.

    Flores stood her ground. She tried several times to ask the question, offering specifics: Senior citizens were waiting overnight for the vaccine, she said. DeSantis demanded to know where; Flores answered by ticking off a list of counties. DeSantis turned the question back at her: "Why did that happen? Did you investigate why?" Flores, apparently taken aback, pointed out that she's not the governor, DeSantis is. She was asking him for the information, exactly as a reporter should.

    DeSantis passed the buck, blaming hospitals that offered the vaccine on a first-come first-served basis instead of requiring people to pre-register. But counties that required pre-registration were overwhelmed, too. Everywhere you look, Floridians are frustrated as the systems around them fail. DeSantis just dodged, apparently under the impression that the ultimate responsibility of getting vaccines to Florida residents does not fall to the Florida governor.

    The United States is already behind in its vaccine program, as every day the deaths stack up, infections rise and the public continues to live in near-lockdown and pervasive fear. The federal government long ago ceded responsibility for managing this pandemic, and too many governors seem to be following President Donald Trump's do-nothing lead.

    Is it fair or sane that the vaccine program has fallen nearly entirely to the states? No. But it is where we are. And so we need our state leaders to buck up and do a better job than the President.

    Instead, governors like DeSantis are emulating Trump, not outshining him.
    His passing of blame, the anger at being questioned, the insult-lobbing at journalists (and female journalists in particular), the arrogance to believe that, despite being a public servant, you aren't accountable to the public -- it's all out of the Trump playbook.

    And while DeSantis and his supporters may find it satisfying to see him putting a female member of media in her place, that kind of playing to the cameras does nothing to solve the real problem: too many Floridians are getting sick and dying and too few are getting vaccinated.

    One in five Floridians is over 65, and a quarter of all Americans over 65 call Florida, Texas or California home. Covid-19 is a virus that grows more deadly along with the age of the person it infects. And now we have a vaccine -- but thousands of at-risk Americans desperate to get it instead find themselves freezing in overnight lines, staring at crashed websites or telephoning in vain.

    All of this, and DeSantis gets angry at a reporter?

    That's not leadership. It is self-absorption and cowardice. And he,along with all of the other politicians who have so totally failed their constituents in a moment when the stakes are life and death, should never live it down.
     
    #2818     Jan 6, 2021
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I saw that interview. CNN posting an article praising their reporter for challenging DeSantis? What's next in the world of Dog Bites Man articles??
     
    #2819     Jan 6, 2021
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You know what they are calling rural counties which are trying to have seniors line-up for COVID vaccines without appointments in North Carolina -- "Florida-style disaster".
     
    #2820     Jan 6, 2021