DeSantis for the win

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, May 21, 2020.

  1. #231     Jun 24, 2020
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    #232     Jun 24, 2020
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I know, you've said this repeatedly. However, going back 14 days doesn't show an increase in deaths either. Like when you told me at the start of the last week of May to wait "14 days". Its in this thread. I can quote it if you want.
     
    #233     Jun 24, 2020
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Please post deaths, as no one except those with a political narrative care about case numbers. If the virus isn't killing as many people, what do we care if more get it?

    Do we care about people catching the flu? Or people dying from the flu?
     
    #234     Jun 24, 2020
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    You should probably re-read that article. I'm not sure it is saying what you think it is saying. Some interesting quotes I wasn't aware of:

    After weeks of withholding it from public disclosure, state officials on Wednesday released the list of coronavirus deaths being compiled by Florida’s medical examiners.

    But the document was redacted to remove the probable cause of death and the description of each case.

    The omissions make the list meaningless, said Dr. Stephen Nelson, the chairman of the state Medical Examiners Commission.

    “You have to take the word from the government that these are deaths related to COVID-19,” said Nelson, who is also the chief medical examiner for Polk, Highlands and Hardee counties.
    Uh, so there is a chance the deaths being reported related to COVID19 may, in fact, not be related to COVID19?? Does this mean the statistics showing deaths might be inflated??

    The version released Wednesday showed the state’s count (of deaths) is now higher than the medical examiners’.
    Wait a second, the state's count is higher than the medical examiners??

    Under Florida law, medical examiners are responsible for certifying every coronavirus death in the state. The health department has been verifying deaths independently by having epidemiologists follow up on every case.

    What’s more, the health department has said it is only including Florida residents in its count, although after the Times’ report it began posting some data on non-resident deaths in feeds online.
    Well, this seems reasonable as the state with the highest rate of tourism in the nation would be interested in keeping its records straight for residents. It might also be a good time to bring up that almost no one who has the ability to claim state residency in Florida does not do it, because doing so allows one to pay no state income taxes.

    The state’s official count is now 3.3 percent higher than the medical examiners’. The data feed that includes non-resident deaths shows a count that is 7.8 percent higher.
    Huh! So does this mean that the already low death stats are inflated by about 3.3%??

    I'd like to thank you for your article. Also like to thank gwb and whynottrade for "thanking you for posting it" without actually reading the content. Since it supports my thesis rather than theirs, it shows that by thanking you for it, they aren't interested in the actual information as much as confirmation bias. Exactly as I have been claiming.

    You should know that the chief beef of the article is that the Florida DoH isn't providing the detail on the patients like they used to, because they are citing privacy violations.
     
    #235     Jun 24, 2020
  6. People do care about catching COVID as it is known to cause long term organ damage.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

    USA has been made great by trump, claiming the #1 position in the total number of deaths at 121,066.

    As of now it is behind Belgium, UK, Spain, Italy, Sweden(!!!) and France in deaths per million. But it is only a matter of time before DeSantis, trump, Abbot and others lead us to greatness in deaths per million also
     
    #236     Jun 24, 2020
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Covertibility stated this earlier. I asked her for a reputable source that backed up the organ damage in patients with no co-morbidity data, but she didn't have one. Do you? If so, could you please share?

    Right, blah blah Trump, blah blah triggered, blah blah TDS, blah blah narrative...We will soon see. If the deaths you claim are imminent, you can say I told you so. If not, I suspect the resounding silence will be...how do they say, deafening?
     
    #237     Jun 24, 2020
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    There is endless medical information now outlining organ damage to COVID patients with no underlying related conditions.

    Coronavirus: Kidney Damage Caused by COVID-19
    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea...s/coronavirus-kidney-damage-caused-by-covid19

    "Some people suffering with severe cases of COVID-19 are showing signs of kidney damage, even those who had no underlying kidney problems before they were infected with the coronavirus. Early reports say that up to 30% of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 in China and New York developed moderate or severe kidney injury. Reports from doctors in New York are saying the percentage could be higher."


    COVID-19 and Multiorgan Response
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7187881/
    Lengthy study with endless charts of information about organ damage in patients with and without co-morbidities.

    Other studies regarding this were posted in previous threads. Anyone ignoring the long term health effects of COVID.... or claiming that organ failure only occurs to people with co-morbidities --- is clearly out of touch with reality.
     
    #238     Jun 24, 2020
  9. If you have a shred of intellectual honesty you would do the searching yourself and counter it with data rather than ask others to search for you.

    but of course you cant expect that from cults


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7187881/


    [/QUOTE]Right, blah blah Trump, blah blah triggered, blah blah TDS, blah blah narrative...We will soon see. If the deaths you claim are imminent, you can say I told you so. If not, I suspect the resounding silence will be...how do they say, deafening?[/QUOTE]

    I guess it is hard for you to accept the truth that trump's policies are killing people.

    Data is there. Death statistics.

    USA has been made great by trump, claiming the #1 position in the total number of deaths at 121,066.

    As of now it is behind Belgium, UK, Spain, Italy, Sweden(!!!) and France in deaths per million. But it is only a matter of time before DeSantis, trump, Abbot and others lead us to greatness in deaths per million also
     
    #239     Jun 24, 2020
  10. trumpism is the most dangerous cult in our history due to its sheer size and the way it took over the body it infested - the republican party

    Pictures from his Arizona event is shocking - no masks in sight, all of them packed together in a hall.

    Not a single republican leader with the spine to stand up to the dear leader, except an occasional whine from Romney
     
    #240     Jun 24, 2020