DeSantis for the win

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, May 21, 2020.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Once again... The reason the medical community does not do studies comparing the long term effects of the seasonal flu and COVID --- is the same reason they don't do studies comparing the long term effects of syphilis and COVID -- the results are meaningless when you compare two items that are very unalike.

    Obviously, the flu primarily only causes respiratory issues during onset. COVID causes respiratory, vascular and organ issues during onset -- to any rational thinker (and from the medical evidence) the long term effects of a disease that involves additional involves vascular and organ issues from the onset will be worse than one merely with respiratory symptoms. There are certainly more documented examples of COVID long haulers over the past six months than people who endured long term effects from the H7N9 flu and other variants over the past decade -- based on the numerous COVID long hauler articles.
     
    #2021     Oct 27, 2020
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    That's unfortunate for you. Because if you can't tell me it is any worse to get COVID - in terms of long term effects than it is to get garden variety viral pneumonia, then why the hell should the argument about long term effects do anything? The same risk has been present my whole life.
     
    #2022     Oct 27, 2020
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    There is a reason that medical scientists don't spend time trying to compare things that are totally unalike. It is a waste of time.
     
    #2023     Oct 27, 2020
  4. jem

    jem

    GWB you fricken lying bullshitting moron.

    1. Tell us ... how there can be even a long term studies for Covid?
    Its less than a year old by most accounts.

    2. The flu does all sorts of damage to old people.
    I have heard quite few doctors compare Covid and the flu.
    you don't know what the hell you are talking about.


    look below...

    See that one about myositis.


    Well I happened to talk to a doctor the day I read the football coach opened his mouth about stuff he did not know...
    the doctor instantly said that is also a side effect of flu for some. Its common knowledge to nurses and doctors the flu sometimes does other harm.


    https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/flu-complications#1

    What Are the Most Common Complications?

    They include viral or bacterial pneumonia, dehydration, and ear infections and sinus infections, especially in children. The flu can worsen long-term medical conditions, like congestive heart failure, asthma, or diabetes.



    You might also have muscle inflammation (myositis), problems with your central nervous system, and heart problems such as heart attacks, inflammation of the organ (myocarditis), and inflammation of the sac around it (pericarditis).

    Who’s Most Likely to Have Flu Complications?
    • Adults over 65
    • Children ages 6 months to 4 years
    • Nursing home residents
    • Adults and children with heart or lung disease
    • People with compromised immune systems (including people with HIV/AIDS)
    • Pregnant women
     
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    #2024     Oct 27, 2020
  5. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    It is more contagious, more deadly but maybe just maybe, perhaps, who knows there aren't long term effects.

    "So you're telling me there's a chance."

    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight Dr Kildare.
     
    #2025     Oct 27, 2020
  6. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Just like conversing with Fan Bois of Florida's own Dotard.
     
    #2026     Oct 27, 2020
  7. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Oh that's real conclusive.

    A post, from who ? to ? and some filler.

    Wow, WebMB, don't hold back, give us more.
     
    #2027     Oct 27, 2020
  8. jem

    jem

    read the thread... GWB was making shit up about medical risks of the flu.

    I knew he was wrong because I have family and friends in medicine.

    I gave a link to a site to back up my statement, since I am not a doctor.
    That is how you do things if you are credible.


    You are now have a short time in the leftist idiot penalty box.
    (in honor of the national sport of a lot of these lefties.)

    If you screw up again, I will give you a major.



     
    #2028     Oct 27, 2020
  9. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Please do so now.

    One less wingnut for me to make fun of. Darn.
     
    #2029     Oct 27, 2020
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Are you pushing the assertion that the long term effects of the flu are worse than the long term effects of COVID?

    Are you pushing the assertion that the percentage of infected people suffering long term effects from the seasonal flu is greater than the percentage from COVID?

    Keep in mind that the study on the long term effects of the H7N9 Flu had to search to entire world to find 153 people to study.
     
    #2030     Oct 27, 2020