Based on the chart you posted on deaths, I assume you are saying things are ok in Florida. That is incredible to me. DeSantis had stated everything was under control and the increase in cases was due to testing and look at death rates, everything is fine. (just like your position). Then he moved on it and said no, it is not due to testing, there is actual community transmission occurring, people please behave. Your position does not seem to have changed. Real people die when politicians like DeSantis and trump ignores scientific advice
So can you or can you not show me where DeSantis said "things are out of control" in Florida? Because that is what you said that he said. I'm beginning to think these are your words now, or am I mistaken? Happy to take back that comment if you show me where he said it. It may appear incredible to you that I would say "things are OK in Florida" (when in reality all I said was that deaths are at all time lows and deaths are the most important statistic - which should be obvious to anyone looking to have honest debate), but if people aren't dying, then isn't that the best case scenario? You may get your pound of flesh soon and you'll be able to rejoice and say "I told you so" if people start dying though. So there is reason to hold out hope that you will be right, and people will die. You say "real people die when politicians like DeSantis and Trump (always about Trump, of course) ignore scientific advice. This is a very partisan and politically motivated statement, which is how I'm sure you intended it to be. But, unfortunately for you, people aren't dying yet (again, you can still hope, it might come to fruition). So that statement is total horseshit at the moment. What you fail to consider is that a governor has to consider the virus balanced with the economy and people's livelihood. You just want to score your political points.
Rise in cases completely understandable and to be expected due to testing. The fact that it's spreading through the population with little impact to extended hospital stays and deaths is a good thing. Until and unless extended hospitalized and deaths spike hard and stay sustained this is nothing to be concerned about, but will certainly give the hand wringing doomers something to cry about.
Why the quotes? I never quoted DeSantis saying that. I did infer that DeSantis has changed his tune. That he has. Yes, people are dying because DeSantis and trump ignored scientific advice. I acknowledge that DeSantis now is realizing his mistake. Hopefully he will act on it and limit the damage. I am responding to a thread that is essentially a fanboi, adulatory paean to DeSantis. So it is likely that any response to such a partisan thread is also likely to be partisan.
Uh, if we are going to have an honest debate, the first part is that we are honest. You state DeSantis said the Florida situation is out of control. I asked where he said this. You can't show it and now you say you never quoted him saying it, but you inferred he changed his tune. If he did not say that, please don't say he said it. That's the honesty part. People are dying at...maybe 10 a day or something? People are dying to some extent in every state. Some, like NY or NJ are much higher than Florida. Does this mean other governors are also realizing some mistake? Or is it only Republican governors that earn your wrath and ridicule? Only Republicans deserve deaths to be placed on their shoulders? Is that what you are responding to. Ah, I see. So you don't have any facts to support your position, just editorial. Why didn't you just say so in the first place? I'd not have wasted time engaging you with thoughtful commentary. I thought you were here to discuss the Covid virus and its effects in Florida. I apologize for mistaking you as someone interested in discussion. We can now just throw ad hom attacks at each other instead.
Do you want to count how many ad hominems you did before I responded? Fact remains that trump and his lackeys - DeSantis, Abbott - wanted to show better numbers, took political decisions based on that and that killed people. trump supporters may not like it, but this happened. I don't think Florida seniors are going to forgive them for that in Nov
I threw ad hominems at you before you responded here? Was I somehow telepathic that you were coming to this thread and decided to launch a first strike? Again, I'm not a Trump supporter. So your argument that I am supporting DeSantis because I support Trump is a fallacy - and completely BS. Though you continue to try to go to that well. You still never answered whether you believed Florida should have voted for Gillum instead of DeSantis. Do you think we would have been better off with the guy who was found a few weeks after the election drunk in a hotel room with a male prostitute and a bag of meth?
So media organizations in Florida are demanding to know why this obvious death of a child in Florida from COVID-19 is not showing up in any of the reports generated from the governor's administration such as the weekly pediatric COVID-19 report. Florida 17-year-old is the youngest in the state to die from coronavirus, records show https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article243714427.html A 17-year-old in Florida has died from COVID-19 complications, making him the first person in the state under 18 to die from the disease, according to Florida Department of Health records. His death was counted by the state Friday, case line data shows. However, he is not listed in Friday’s pediatric COVID-19 report, which provides weekly statewide COVID-19 data on confirmed cases, hospitalizations and deaths in those under the age of 18. Florida Department of Health did not immediately respond to the Miami Herald’s inquiry on why his death was not included in the weekly report. (More at above url)