I am not arguing against many of the Covid restrictions because Republicans are also arguing against them. I am arguing against many of the Covid restrictions because I believe it is the right thing to support given the mish mash of crappy data and the alternative (completely destroying the economy). That's why I tried to keep the topic on the science and the data. You brought Republicans and Trump into it. I did bring DeSantis into it (it is my thread) and did so to show that all of the data we were told would be Florida's fate was complete and total horseshit. DeSantis argued against it and he was right. He is right thus far as well. If he turns out to be wrong, he'll own that. I'll admit being in error as well. But right now, we did what we had to and it wasn't anything like we were told it would be. Please see: Note what we were told would happen if there was no intervention or social distancing. Note what we were told would happen if we did 3 months social distancing. See the Hospital Capacity (the reason for "Flattening the curve"). See actual hospitalizations. The data wasn't even close. See bed counts and hospitalizations. This data is a month old and was posted when I was making the point on phase 1 reopening. I have all the articles when the media said Florida would be the next Italy. When they said Florida would be the nation's leading deaths (because of the seniors). None of it came true. And you want me to trust the "experts" now, because this time they've got it right, we promise!
Yet despite your assertions..... all we are hearing about Florida is the current dire hospital bed situation... Multiple Florida Hospitals Run Out of ICU Beds as Coronavirus Cases Spike https://www.newsweek.com/multiple-florida-hospitals-run-out-icu-beds-coronavirus-cases-spike-1511934 As Florida health officials report another record single-day increase in cases of the novel coronavirus, new data shows hospitals across the state have filled most or all available beds in their respective intensive care units. Numerous Florida medical facilities reported dwindling ICU bed availability on Thursday, with several reporting no availability at all, according to the latest report published by Florida's Agency for Health Care Administration (AHCA). Palm Beach County was among those statewide regions where the availability of beds was most scarce. An accompanying report from AHCA shows about 75 percent of available hospital beds statewide are currently occupied. The AHCA's data showed two of Palm Beach County's 17 hospitals have already filled all ICU beds, while several other medical centers reported limited availability. One hospital in Miami-Dade County has also reached its ICU bed capacity as of Thursday, and the majority of hospitals have filled more than half of beds in intensive care units. Palm Beach and Miami-Dade counties have reported two of Florida's most severe local virus outbreaks. More than 12,500 people have been hospitalized with virus infections in Florida since the start of the pandemic, according to the state's Department of Health (DOH). The number accounts for all patients admitted to medical facilities, so Thursday's daily total is unclear. AHCA released its most recent data regarding Florida's hospital and ICU beds as the state sees a substantial spike in virus cases. Florida confirmed its highest daily increase in positive diagnoses on Thursday, surpassing four single-day records set throughout the past week. The DOH's latest update confirms 3,207 new cases identified since Wednesday, bringing Florida's total to 85,926 diagnoses overall. Almost 17,000 people have tested positive for the coronavirus in Florida over the last seven days. Florida health officials previously told Newsweek they attributed the sharp increase in cases to expanded testing procedures implemented throughout the state since it began reopening early last month. However, infectious disease experts and government leaders have warned that simultaneous increases in hospitalization numbers may signal a more serious uptick in transmission, one that could be linked to loosened restrictions for business operations and public gatherings. The latest figures reported by Florida's DOH on Thursday showed the state's total virus case count had more than tripled since reopening procedures were first initiated on May 4. Governor Ron DeSantis permitted all state regions to enter Phase 2 of Florida's reopening plan on June 5, allowing bars, movie theaters and other entertainment venues to begin operating. Most other establishments, including personal care services, gyms, restaurants and retailers, reopened with some limitations in place when DeSantis effected Phase 1. Responding to a rise in local cases, Miami Mayor Francis Suarez said the city would not transition into its third reopening phase until outbreak numbers decrease again. Miami-Dade, Palm Beach and Broward county officials have determined their own reopening timelines separate from DeSantis' order. Newsweek reached out to Florida's DOH and AHCA for comments on the state's latest case and hospitalization data, but did not hear back in time for publication.
Of course you're "hearing" about it. The riots have calmed down, so its back to the same news cycle. Quick! We need another riot or something so we can talk about Covid being better again! I'll ask the one question I've been asking all along. Where. Are. The. Deaths?
At the end of Bush’s second term the MSM bashed everything Bush and the Iraq war every night to ad nauseam. But as soon as Obama was elected, magically overnight everything got better, even though nothing had changed. It’s the same playbook today, instead of the war we endure Trump’s Covid, Trump’s protests, Trump’s yada yada yada...... like a frickin broken record every day. Yes, it’s just a cycle, Covid-19’s return today, BLM protests next week, and on and on and on.... Truly, if people can’t understand the bullshit being spun by the MSM’s nighty indoctrination and misinformation attempt, we’re doomed.
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis pointed to clusters of “overwhelmingly Hispanic” day laborers and agriculture workers driving the state’s recent coronavirus spike I doubt it has anything to do with the white people who crowded the beaches the past two months without masks or social distancing. DeSantis has no balls.
DeSantis caught lying again. Isn't it bad enough that his administration is deliberately manipulating the published statistics on the state's dashboard.... but now he continues to push his agenda via more obviously false statements. "He was fact-checked by Florida Agriculture Commissioner Nikki Fried, a Democrat, who said the majority of farmworkers left the state weeks ago after harvests, and that cases are spiking in nonagricultural areas, The Tampa Bay Times reported." Florida Governor Ripped For Trying To Pin COVID-19 Spike On Hispanic Workers Farmworker advocates called Ron DeSantis’ comments “shameful” after he said “overwhelmingly Hispanic” laborers were spreading the disease. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ron-...ers-covid-19-spike_n_5eed8a22c5b63562b7603ec0 Angry health experts and worker advocates fired back Friday after Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) said that “overwhelmingly Hispanic” day laborers and agricultural workers are a key driver of a record spike in the state’s COVID-19 cases. DeSantis, who was one of the last governors in the nation to issue a statewide stay-at-home order and one of the first to reopen the economy, told reporters Tuesday that the surge was mostly among nursing homes, construction workers and other day laborers and farmworkers. Last week he said that “the No. 1 outbreak we’ve seen is in agricultural communities.” “Some of these guys go to work in a school bus, and they’re are all just packed there like sardines, going across Palm Beach County or some of these other places, and there’s just all these opportunities to have transmission,” DeSantis said Tuesday. Check out his comments concerning the “overwhelmingly Hispanic” workers in the video below at the 10:00 and 23:30 marks. (See article for video) He was fact-checked by Florida Agriculture Commissioner Nikki Fried, a Democrat, who said the majority of farmworkers left the state weeks ago after harvests, and that cases are spiking in nonagricultural areas, The Tampa Bay Times reported. Farmworker advocates ripped the governor for a racist blame-the-victims strategy in a state where employers are required to provide few protections for farmworkers and Florida has offered little outreach to a vulnerable population with poor access to health care and hygienic living conditions. Antonio Tovar, executive director of the Farmworker Association of Florida, blasted the comments as “shameful,” and told The News Service in Florida that a coalition of 50 groups had begged the governor for help for the community back in April. “From day one we asked for help for farmworkers, none came,” Lourdes Villanueva, the director of farmworker advocacy for Redlands Christian Migrant Association, told The Tampa Bay Times. “It’s always about blaming the less fortunate and the ones that cannot defend themselves.” The Florida Health Department reported 3,207 new cases of the coronavirus on Thursday, marking the largest daily increase since early March. As of Thursday, Florida has recorded over 85,000 cases and at least 3,061 deaths. The recent spike is triggering concerns that Florida could become the new American epicenter for the virus. The state health department did not provide data, case ZIP codes or maps to the Miami Herald to supply evidence backing the governor’s claim that COVID-19 is highest in Florida’s agricultural communities, the Herald reported. Franco Ripple, a spokesman for the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, accused the governor of “cherry-picking data” to scapegoat farmworkers. Much of the rise in new cases since June 10 has occurred in counties where there is little agriculture, Ripple noted, according to the Herald. “Naming rural and farm communities as a main driver” of the disease is “not accurate,” he said. DeSantis last week seemed to downplay the growing number of cases in the state by noting that they were appearing largely in specific communities, such as among farmworkers — and in nursing homes. He jokingly referred to Florida in April as “God’s waiting room” because of the large number of elderly residents in the state, who are particularly vulnerable to the coronavirus.