DeSantis for the win

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, May 21, 2020.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Well I will agree with two decisions made in the past 24 hours by DeSantis...
    • Closing the state run COVID testing sites as the storm is approaching - despite some calling it premature. Better safe than sorry.
    • Extending the ban on evictions and foreclosures until Sept 1st. Generally I am not a fan of these bans since they have been abused. However with the COVID rates in the state greatly rising it is probably a good move to extend it for a small period of time to avoid making people homeless while Florida is the top COVID epicenter.
     
    #1191     Jul 30, 2020
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Please....show.....me.....where.....the.....CDC.....gave.....the.....supposed......advice....
     
    #1192     Jul 30, 2020
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    It is snowing in hell.
     
    #1193     Jul 30, 2020
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

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    #1194     Jul 30, 2020
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  5. userque

    userque

    #1195     Jul 30, 2020
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    #1196     Jul 30, 2020
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    userque

  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The CDC Guidelines for Nursing Homes from April 30th are found at the url below. It includes guidance on new admissions or readmissions to the facility. It appears that the CDC believes it is perfectly acceptable to re-admit patients who have COVID -- they are supposed to be kept in a "designated COVID-19 care unit".

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/nursing-homes-responding.html
     
    #1198     Jul 30, 2020
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  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    So I'm going to have to disagree. The general error in this is that the CDC recommended patients be transferred to longer term care only if that facility could implement all of the recommended protocols for protection the CDC was recommending.

    I'll point you to a good read on the subject at Politifact, where they rate Governor's Cuomo's (and your) claim that they followed the CDC's advice as recommended as mostly false.

    Our ruling
    The CDC's guidance at the time of the March 25 state order was that COVID-19 patients who are medically stable can be discharged from a hospital to a nursing home, but only if the nursing home can implement all recommended infection control procedures.

    CMS, a federal agency that regulates nursing homes, issued similar guidance, and also said that preferably, coronoavirus patients should be cared for in a dedicated unit.

    Like CDC and CMS, the state Health Department said only those patients who are medically stable can be discharged, and also recommended that nursing homes consider dedicated units, if possible. The Health Department prohibited nursing homes from requiring a COVID-19 test before admitting a resident, while CMS said new residents should be tested, but did not require it.

    The Cuomo administration points to state and federal regulations that predate the pandemic, which require facilities to accept only those patients they can care for. In addition, earlier state communications encouraged nursing homes to stay current with CDC guidance.


    But once the state issued its March 25 advisory, nursing home operators said that they felt they had no choice but to accept residents who were either known to be infected or suspected to be. That’s because the March 25 memo did not say anything about making sure that a nursing home can care for a patient before making an admission decision, and said they "must comply with the expedited receipt of residents." In the month following the memo, nursing homes pleaded for relief from the order.

    We rate his statement Mostly False.
     
    #1199     Jul 30, 2020
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  10. userque

    userque

    My posts were about NY following CDC guidelines vs FL not doing so.

    My assertion was that, generally, DeSantis did not following the guidelines; whereas NY did follow them.

    Cutting to the chase: So you have no problems with DeSantis' response to the outbreak?
     
    #1200     Jul 30, 2020