DeSantis for the win

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, May 21, 2020.

  1. UsualName

    UsualName

    I don’t know. I’m not really up on what Florida is doing to mitigate spread. If bars are open and there is no face covering required I would surprised if Florida is peaking and not plateauing.

    If Florida is doing a county by county mitigation effort, I’d expect a drop from Miami-Dade then a spike somewhere else because that’s basically a reactionary whack-a-mole effort.

    The whack-a-mole strategy is what we see as we look at cases rising and falling among the many states. Yesterday was Texas, Florida, Georgia tomorrow is Tennessee, etc.

    The point is we really missed the boat on the first lock down to truly contain this thing. We are so far behind and have such a long haul in front of us.
     
    #1111     Jul 29, 2020
  2. Ricter

    Ricter

    So true. $3T in disaster relief spending wasted.
     
    #1112     Jul 29, 2020
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  3. I wonder why the countries that had shutdowns are outperforming.
     
    Last edited: Jul 29, 2020
    #1113     Jul 29, 2020
  4. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Canada was at 81% deaths in long term care for the first few months, but most of our new infections are young people now. In terms of understanding the future, Toronto may help illustrate a lot next few months. Rock bottom on new infections now ( 4 on Monday, 1 on Tuesday ); moving to level 3 on Friday ( about as cautious a plan as anyone has taken in NA ). Most of Canada has been level 3 for at least a few weeks already.

    In some ways, Toronto is the polar opposite of early days Sweden in approach. The future will indicate which approach worked out best and to what degree. I do however think Canada and Sweden's current approach is probably similar in nature, as many US states might be. How we chose to get to this point is quite different.

    Florida remains a predictable mess and the virus deniers or minimalists of here keep moving the goalposts of what they consider to be fine. At one point, I argued that 40-60 deaths a day in Florida was too many. So we are now 130-230 a day. It is what it is as I said 3 months ago I'm comfortable with the path we chose willing to live with all aspects of it.
     
    #1114     Jul 29, 2020
  5. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    It is important however to note that the medical experts ( the good ones ) raised the right red flags in the early days and were routinely mocked or dismissed by many people. Which in my opinion tends to make people on the fence on safety precautions take extra risks, and gives some deniers a feeling they can act as they want without impunity.

    The fact we have several posters on here openly denying the virus as a risk helps denote the lunatic fringe will always exist and the internet gives them a voice. I don't consider you to be a virus denier but do think you are trying to hard to minimize the risk using data that can change rapidly in even a month.
     
    #1115     Jul 29, 2020



  6. New highs !!
     
    #1116     Jul 29, 2020
  7. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    I've heard that a great way to get things back to normal would be to protect the vulnerable and let it run in the low risk group in order to reach herd immunity such as is likely in Sweden and other places.
     
    #1117     Jul 29, 2020
  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Couldn't agree more. A total disaster and so poorly developed and managed.
     
    #1118     Jul 29, 2020
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Sweden is at the top of the chart and they had no shut down at all.
     
    #1119     Jul 29, 2020
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Sweden is a complete failure... we don't want to follow their poor example.
     
    #1120     Jul 29, 2020