DeSantis 2024

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TreeFrogTrader, Jul 3, 2022.

  1. Heh, Newsom already beginning to sweat and worrying about DeSantis so he has started campaign ads to let voters know that there is a Soy Alternative.

    Let the games begin.

    His reward for doing this is that DeSantis will pushback a couple times and make some pithy reply and then step back a bit rather than take the bait. But -Trump who is about to launch his Slash and Burn Tour will put Soy Boy solidly in his crosshairs 24/7 while DeSantis watches.

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    Gavin Newsom goes on the air against Ron DeSantis as political rivalry grows
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/03/politics/gavin-newsom-ron-desantis-ad-2024/index.html



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    I don't see how the very unpopular Kamala Harris can be beating Ron DeSantis in 2024 polls -- unless they are polls from left-leaning polling firms.

    Kamala Harris Keeps Beating Ron DeSantis In Polls. Why Don't We Hear More About That?
    https://www.wonkette.com/kamala-har...is-in-polls-why-don-t-we-hear-more-about-that

    While we keep hearing a lot about how Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is supposed to be the anointed GOP candidate in 2024 if Donald Trump doesn't run, or is (ahem) otherwise occupied, like if he's throwing trays of prison food at the walls (don't get your hopes up), we aren't yet seeing much speculation about the Democratic ticket. That's mostly because it seems pretty likely Joe Biden will run for reelection. But if he chooses not to, polling has already pretty consistently shown Vice President Kamala Harris doing especially well against DeSantis. A recent Yahoo News/YouGov poll even shows her running about even with Trump, with both Harris and Trump getting 41 percent.

    Yes, this is where we remind you that, four months before this year's midterms, it seems pretty daft to be talking about polling for the 2024 presidential race, and any numbers out there represent vague impressions, not an outline for what's coming. Heck, by the time the 2024 primaries are supposed to start, America may already be under martial law after Canadian peacekeepers march in to save us from ourselves.

    Again, don't get your hopes up.

    But for all his general We Don't Listen To Joe Scarborough Ever-ness, MSNBC Morning Zoo deejay Joe Scarborough made a pretty good point on the Twitters: Harris keeps beating DeSantis in early polling, so where's the big profile about her bright prospects?

    DeSantis sneezes and he’s framed as the rising star of politics. And yet the Great White Hope STILL loses is every head-to-head matchup with Harris. The VP also draws even with Trump.


    To be sure, Scarborough links to polling from May, but the more recent polling shows similar results: Yes, DeSantis wins a Trumpless field, but generally not with overwhelming support. And up against Harris, or against California Gov. Gavin Newsom, who ran some dandy DeSantis-kicking ads in Florida — on Fox — DeSantis hardly looks like a juggernaut, a dreadnought, or even an Ugnaught for '24.

    The Yahoo/YouGov poll

    found Biden leading Trump 42% to 40% and DeSantis 41% to 37%. It found Harris tied with Trump 41% to 41%, but matched Biden's margin against DeSantis at 41% to 37%.


    Newsom did just a touch better than Harris — or not better at all, considering margins of error — edging Trump 40 percent to 39 percent, and beating DeSantis 39 percent to 36 percent, although in a hypothetical Newsom-DeSantis matchup, the undecideds are a whopping 25 percent, leading many respondents to ask where they could get more information on this Undecided person, who really resonated with their concerns.

    Here, have a little data visualization of that rundown, also too:

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  3. Or to put it another way, Florida governor with very little name recognition down on mainstreet America is within 4 points of the Vice President of the United States and the race has not even started.

    We have seen this movie before. Kamala consistentiy named as a top one that comes to mind in the polls, but dems don't like to vote for her in the primary. Refer to 2020 for more on this.

    Kamala is my second choice, after Hillary, for the dem nominee. You can put either one of them up as the nominee and that would be great. NOT A PROB.


    Nervous Democrats pray for anyone but Kamala Harris as 2024 nominee

    Democrats are despairing about the possibility of Kamala Harris becoming the 2024 nominee if President Biden doesn’t seek a second term in office, insiders told The Post.

    Three polls just this month show more than 50% of Americans hold an unfavorable view of Harris, and those headwinds will likely only increase should Republicans retake the House next year.

    “Her main problem is not being a woman or mixed race, her problem is she has low ratings just like President Biden,” said Larry Sabato, a professor of Politics at the University of Virginia. “If Biden were riding sky high, she would be doing relatively well as well. She would be seen as a popular successor carrying on a popular president’s mandate.”

    Political donors — who all requested anonymity to speak freely — are similarly beside themselves.

    “She seems completely useless. No one involved in this administration should be in the running,” one significant Democratic donor told The Post.

    https://nypost.com/2022/07/02/democrats-pray-for-anyone-but-kamala-harris-as-2024-nominee/
     
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  4. gwb-trading

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    Let me say that I agree with most of what you stated -- however I disagree with your initial statement about DeSantis having very little name recognition down on mainstreet America. Ron DeSantis polls better outside of Florida than inside of Florida. He has raised over $100 Million from donors -- nearly all of it coming from out of state. Ron DeSantis has significant nation-wide name recognition.
     
  5. That's fine. People donating to campaigns this early in the stage do tend to be following political stuff a bit more than the guy working down at walmart though.

    It is a positive for Ron either way. It is a feather in his cap if he has a lot of recognition, and it is a feather in his cap if he has little but is still within 4 points of the Vice President.
     
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    Why a wave of social media ads may signal a potential DeSantis White House run
    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/wh...otential-desantis-white-house-run-2022-07-07/

    Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, a rising Republican star, has been careful not to nurture growing speculation that he will make a presidential bid in 2024. He has brushed off questions about his political ambitions, while the party's presumptive front-runner, Donald Trump, repeatedly hints he will run again.

    But there are signs that DeSantis could be preparing for a White House run even as he campaigns for another term as governor in November's midterm elections.

    A Reuters analysis of DeSantis' social media ads shows he has dramatically expanded his out-of-state ads in recent months, an indicator, say some political analysts, that he may be laying the groundwork for a national campaign.

    In the first three months of this year, political ads sent through DeSantis' Facebook and Instagram pages were overwhelmingly concentrated in Florida, as one would expect from a man running for office in the state.

    But by the April-June period, they were spread roughly evenly between Florida and the rest of the country, according to a Reuters analysis of regional spending data for social media ads compiled by New York University's Cybersecurity for Democracy project.

    DeSantis' increase in out-of-state ads suggests a move toward building a nationwide network of supporters, said three Republican strategists, including Ron Bonjean, who was an adviser to former president Trump's 2016 presidential transition team.

    "It's an important part of the campaign playbook and can help him build support quickly should he eventually throw his hat in the ring," Bonjean said, adding that the timing matters as Trump could declare his candidacy "at any moment" and potentially dent DeSantis' momentum.

    DeSantis may, however, simply be using his national profile to seek a broader donor base for his re-election campaign, said Travis Ridout, an expert on campaign ads at Washington State University, although the Republican is a fund-raising giant who has already built a $100 million plus warchest.

    Dave Abrams, a senior adviser on DeSantis' re-election campaign, did not comment on the ads, but said the governor was fully focused on "winning big" in Florida this November.

    "We'll let the self-described 'experts' do what they do best: pontificate endlessly," he told Reuters.

    Two sources close to DeSantis confirmed to Reuters he is building a national database of voter contact information.

    Political campaigns in the United States use such data, collected from many sources,to create detailed profilesof voters to inform their strategies and tactics. Gathering data via social media was a key tool for Trump's own 2016 and 2020 presidential campaigns. Any challenger would have to compete against his formidable database of small donors.

    Social media ads often prompt supporters for their names, email addresses and other information that campaigns can use for future fundraising appeals and invitations to rallies.

    SWING STATES
    Should DeSantis launch a White House bid, he would be retracing the steps of past presidential candidates including U.S. Senator Corey Booker, a Democrat who boosted out-of-state social media ads ahead of the 2018 midterm elections before running for president in 2020, Ridout said.

    Many of DeSantis' recent ads were concentrated in swing states like Pennsylvania and North Carolina, with ad viewers asked to fill out surveys with questions like: "Are YOU feeling pain at the pump thanks to Joe Biden?"

    Other ads ask for support to fight "the dishonest corporate media," "woke corporations" and the left's "socialist agenda."

    After clicking on an ad, users are directed to a DeSantis web page that asks for their opinion on the issue and contact information.

    Compared to television, ads on social media are cheap for political campaigns. DeSantis spent only around $300,000 on Facebook and Instagram ads in the first half of 2022, according to the NYU data.

    "Small-dollar donors are worth more than the money involved," said Ohio-based Republican strategist Mark Weaver. "They can be volunteers and force multipliers of your message far outside of the borders of Florida."

    In contrast, the governors of the other biggest states - Republican Greg Abbott and Democrats Gavin Newsom of California and Kathy Hochul of New York - have overwhelmingly focused on their home states in social media ads this year.

    To be sure, there are many bigger steps that American presidential hopefuls need to take before launching any White House campaign. Making a pilgrimage to early voting states in the nomination process, such as Iowa, is one of them. Trump's former vice president, Mike Pence, has already made the trip. DeSantis has not.
     
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  9. I did not watch the video, but I see a picture of President DeSantis on the intro.

    :cool:
     
    #10     Jul 7, 2022