Derivatives to blame for the debacles at Merrill, Citibank and Countrywide?

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by DerivativesDesk, Dec 8, 2007.

  1. Blame it on Rio (Risk Ignorant Outlook); blame it on derivatives

    The increased usage of derivatives is not the sole reason for the recent spate of debt write-downs by the likes of Merrill Lynch, Citigroup, Countrywide, etc.

    Invariably, the unmitigated quest for profit, i.e., greed, combined with a myopic short-term investment focus, mixed in with whirling devirish volatility and the lack of ability to redistribute risk despite the incomprehensible array of hybrid derivatives products, were the "perfect storm" for calamity.

    Derivatives have become a bewildering, complex, sometimes nonsensical financial instruments, whose intrinsic value is only on paper, vacuous, as the underlying cash or security has been so sliced and diced and tranched and mezzanined and senior this and equity that to the point that the best, most brilliant minds and quants at MIT, Stanford, Baruch College and the leading IB's on Wall Street could not price or value them with any certainty.

    Merton-Scholes would surely be first in line for another Nobel prize in Economics if they could adequately value and model the current litany of hybrid derivatives and securitized financial instruments out there today.

    The "Chinese Wall", or should I be more politically correct and say, the "firewalls" that once existed to separate banks, brokers and insurance and assurance entities before the Glass-Steagall Act was effectively repealed in the late 90's, has made for some very questionable bedfellows, passing around mortgage-backed securities like appetizers to each other and leaving the crumbs of the feast to be cleaned up by the wait staff.

    Think Fannie Mae.

    Not only how they failed in their accounting for derivatives "off-balance sheet" by not marking-to-market, but the tawdry business of "making markets" in mortgage-backed securities, in effect selling the products and buying them back in unrecognizable, grotesque form, and stating them in the journal entries at original value, P&L reflecting inordinate profits.

    If only I could do that with my own bank account.

    I wouldn't have time to write this article, for I would be in a villa somewhere on a tropical isle.
     
  2. We're going to see a lot of new legislation in the coming years because of this.
     
  3. maxpi

    maxpi

    Fat fricking chance... in 1929 there was a sort of a derivative. A person could grab $100 of stock with $10 margin, take the shares to a bank, deposit them, borrow on them and take the $100 to the brokerage and buy $1000 worth of stock and repeat the cycle again at another bank...

    In 1987 there was mortgage insurance that led up to the panic.

    Warren Buffet was talking about the excess investment in derivatives just a couple of years back.... no regulators jumped to the limelight to regulate the industry then, they aren't now and they won't in the future... if that was going to happen it would have already... just get on the merry go round and go for the brass ring, the inmates are running the asylum and always have...