Deportations

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Apr 8, 2025.

  1. GWB's dem leader right here. You did not see the senator meeting with the mothers/fathers of any of his constituents who had their heads bashed in and were raped and killed by illegals/saints from Central America.

    Yeh, friends having coffee. Reminds me of Tampon Tim saying in the campaign that "he had become friends with school shooters." Excuse me, but what?

    Looks like Senator Lefty there forgot to brings bagels.
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    #51     Apr 18, 2025
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The officer who declared that Kilmar Abrego Garcia was a gang member was released from the police force for misconduct shortly after he made this claim.

    Let's take a look at the "evidence" that Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a gang member.

    The Evidence Linking Kilmar Abrego Garcia to MS-13: A Chicago Bulls Hat and a Hoodie
    What’s it take for Trump to label someone a gang member and deport them to a prison in El Salvador? Little more than a Chicago Bulls cap.
    https://theintercept.com/2025/04/18/trump-kilmar-abrego-garcia-ms13-gang-database/

    The Trump administration is doubling down on depicting Kilmar Abrego Garcia as a dangerous gang member. The government’s proof for this claim appears to hinge on a Chicago Bulls cap and a hoodie.

    While Trump continues to flout court orders to facilitate the Maryland father’s release from a notorious El Salvador prison, it is pointing to flimsy evidence of alleged MS-13 ties — adding to a long-running pattern of dubious gang designations by law enforcement and immigration agents.

    Last month, immigration enforcement officials rounded up hundreds of migrants under the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, accusing them of being members of gangs the administration deemed terrorist organizations. Abrego Garcia, 29, a Salvadoran national, was among the men sent to the Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo, or CECOT, prison. The government admitted in court filings that he was sent there due to an “administrative error,” in violation of a court order blocking his deportation due to threats to his safety in El Salvador.

    While many of the other detained men appear to be labeled as gang members mainly because of their tattoos, law enforcement officials seem to have singled Abrego Garcia out for his attire, additional documents released Wednesday by Attorney General Pam Bondi show.

    The documents released detail a Prince George’s County Police Department encounter with Abrego Garcia in 2019. “Officers observed he was wearing a Chicago Bulls hat and a hoodie with rolls of money covering the eyes, ears, and mouth of the presidents,” they wrote. “Officers know such clothing to be indicative of the Hispanic gang culture.”

    The gang field interview sheet from the Prince George’s County Police Department notes that “wearing the Chicago Bulls hat represents that they are a member in good standing with MS-13.”

    Officers also stated they reached out to a confidential informant who claimed that Abrego Garcia was a member of MS-13. In court, it was revealed that the source claimed Abrego Garcia was a member of the gang in New York — a place where he never lived. Abrego Garcia has never been charged with a crime, and his family maintains that he was never a member of any gang.

    Ana Muñiz, a professor of criminology, law, and society at UC Irvine, said it’s not at all surprising that police and immigration officials put so much emphasis on his hat as a way to prove his gang ties.

    “A gang designation is something that police really use to maintain contact, mainly with men of color in low-income urban neighborhoods, when they can’t find enough to actually charge them with a crime,” said Muñiz, the author of “Borderland Circuitry: Immigration Surveillance in the United States and Beyond.” You have people with gang designations, people on gang databases who are designated on things like clothing [from] very popular sports brands.”

    Muñiz explained that law enforcement agencies generally use a 9 or 10-point system to determine gang affiliation based on factors as mundane and subjective as wearing sports apparel or “frequenting a gang area.” To be placed on a gang database, suspects often only need to meet two of the categories, she said.

    In an ethnography Muñiz conducted on gang designation in Los Angeles, she found that the Los Angeles Police Department “considered Dodgers gear to be indicative of gang membership, in certain contexts,” Muñiz said. “If you’ve ever been to LA, everyone is wearing Dodgers gear.”

    Though the Chicago Bulls aren’t local to Maryland, where Abrego Garcia lived, Bulls apparel has reportedly been the best-selling pro basketball apparel in the state.

    Gang designations can become sweep up wide swaths of the population; at one point, roughly half of all Black men in Los Angeles between the ages of 21 to 24 years old were listed on a gang database, according to a report published in the Asian Pacific American Law Journal.

    For people like Abrego Garcia, being listed as having a gang affiliation — no matter how thin the justification — can have serious immigration consequences. Yet in some cases, people might not even be aware that they’re on a gang database. “It’s really common for police when they can’t charge someone with a crime or find something to get them on to slap this very easy designation on them,” Muñiz said, “and then eventually, it will make its way up to ICE, and ICE will use that in court to argue for things like expedited deportation or compulsory detention.”

    Abrego Garcia is far from the first case of Chicago Bulls attire being weaponized in the immigration process. An investigation by The Intercept during the first Trump administration revealed that students at a Long Island high school were reported to ICE for among other things wearing Chicago Bulls jersey and posting the Salvadoran flag on Facebook.

    Many of the men shipped to the CECOT prison with Abrego Garcia appear to be detained under similarly flimsy gang affiliation claims. Federal law enforcement officials reportedly rated them on a 10-point scale, with a score of 8 or more designating them a member of Tren de Aragua, and thus immediately deportable since President Donald Trump invoked the Alien Enemies Act to alleged members of the gang. Certain tattoos were 4 points. Another 4 points could be added for “notations, drawing, or dress known to indicate were allegiance to TDA.”

    On Thursday, Sen. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., met with Abrego Garcia after traveling to El Salvador to check on his constituent’s welfare and “discuss” his release.

    “My main goal of this trip was to meet with Kilmar. Tonight I had that chance,” Van Hollen wrote on X. “I have called his wife, Jennifer, to pass along his message of love. I look forward to providing a full update upon my return,”

    Muñiz said she predicted that the Trump administration would use gang affiliation as a tool to fuel the president’s mass deportation strategy and system of racialized state terror. “You don’t need probable cause. You don’t need to prove this in court,” she said. “It’s a label you can apply very easily, without criminal charges, without really any proof. And then, once that person is labeled, you can justify doing a lot of things with them, like detaining them, like deporting them.”
     
    #52     Apr 18, 2025
  3. Heh, the illegal is playing the lefties like the keys on a piano.

    The deportee argued for asylum because he was a gang member and his life was at risk from rival gangs in El Salvador. Now he says "me a gang member? whatchu be talkin' bout."

    The state department does not want him. Just being a low lifer and a wife beater is enough. He has no right to be here. In addition to all of the alleged criminal activity and domestic assault, he is an undesireable. Maybe having the dems all on his side and an army of lawyers can bat down some of the accusations against him. I don't know. But he is still a low lifer and we don't need him for anything or want him for anything. In addition, he passed through Mexico to get to the US and international requires you to request asylum in the FIRST country you come too where you are away from the threats in your home country- not the first country you would like to live in. That country would be Mexico.

    The state department does not want him in the country. You do. Senator from Maryland does, all the dem nutcases do. But it is for the state department to decide. Maybe send AOC down to El Salvador. See if that helps. Pelosi was a MS-13 bootlicker too. It is what dems do.

    GWB. Keeping the dem spirit alive.

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    #53     Apr 18, 2025
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    Once again... let's outline there is not a shred of legitimate evidence demonstrating Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a gang member. Even the U.S. government stated he was improperly deported.
     
    #54     Apr 18, 2025
  5. Yes and no.

    The US has conceded that he was wrongly included with a list of other deportees scheduled to be deported.

    But the US state department also argues that there is no basis for bringing him back because they still want him deported so the outcome would be the same.

    We can go back and forth on the gang member issue but it feeds into your contention and your ms-13 dem bootlickers' contention that criminal activity or gang membership is required to deport an illegal. However, it is not. The president of the united states has terminated the bogus temporary status that the previous president created and pulled out of his arse. Therefore, he is eligible to be deported for that or any or no reason at all beyond that. The fact that they think he is an undesirable shit bum for alleged or proven reasons is only further incentive. But there are now massive numbers of illegals scheduled for deportation simply because their bogus temp status has been terminated with the same executive authority that established it. If you want to continue to argue that Garcia, the Patron Saint of El Salvador did not wrong there or here, then fine. Meanwhile, bye bye to him. No reason other the fact that the State Department does not want him and/or he has no legal temp status anymore is all that is needed.

    I am somewhat okay though with the idea of bringing him back if it goes that way because he would be deported again and I think all the messaging gets back to those who are planning to come. And that is for the good. Refer to the lower crossing numbers on how effective the current messaging and enforcement are. And yes, I know, you have all sorts of bogus data that shows that the numbers were groovy under Biden. Whatever, drink your kool aid.

    Meanwhile, a message to Saint Garcia.....the Patron Saint of MS-13.........

    HASTA LA VISTA HOME BOY!!!!!
     
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    #55     Apr 18, 2025
  6. Arnie

    Arnie

    #56     Apr 18, 2025
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  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    It's amazing the spin the Trump administration is creating so they don't have to bring Kilmar Abrego Garcia back to the U.S. as ordered by a judge who looked at the evidence in detail.

    This demonstrates exactly what is wrong with the Trump administration. A continual spinning of lies -- whether it is from Musk, from Kennedy or any of his other extremist appointees.

    There should be one simple question put to every government appointed official -- "Who legitimately won the 2020 U.S. Presidential election?" Any of them that refuse to say Biden should not be allowed in a government position -- because they are living in a MAGA fact-free fantasy world intent on undermining our democracy.
     
    #57     Apr 18, 2025
  8. It's Good Friday/Easter weekend.

    Hopefully you have remembered to light a candle for Saint Garcia.

    We know you have already forgiven him for all his past and future sins so that is noble of you. OR NOT.

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    #58     Apr 18, 2025
  9. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    It would be a better outcome if you got deported.
     
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    #59     Apr 18, 2025
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Send him to Canada!

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    #60     Apr 18, 2025