Deportations

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Apr 8, 2025.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I provided links with interviews with the families and the deportees. Go read them.

    We know very well what happened at this point -- The Trump administration deported U.S. citizen children without allowing their mothers to contact the fathers or families in the U.S. to take the children home.
     
  2. vztrdr

    vztrdr

    Well whatever. Mistakes are gonna happen when you have to deport 10MM plus people that should never have been here in the first place with the former Administrations treasonous opening of our borders.

    Either way, like I said.... 99.999999% of U.S. citizens are not in danger of the MSNBC/CNN:

    "YOU COULD BE NEXT"

    -gasoline they like to pour on the TDS fire.
    ~case closed.
     
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  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Trump himself is already regularly stating he supports deporting U.S. citizens and will find ways to do so.

    "First they came for the..."
     
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    This is Trump's America.

    ICE raids home of U.S. citizens. Steals everything they own as "evidence" and won't give it back.

    Your home is next.



    ICE Invades Wrong Home, Steals Their Life Savings, and Then Leaves
    A woman says armed federal agents stole from her family and left their home trashed. “I know it was a little rough this morning,” one of them later told her.
    https://newrepublic.com/post/194557/ice-invades-wrong-home-oklahoma-girls-underwear-life-savings
     
  5. Trump is just following Obama's precedent. Expedited removals dominated: Approximately 75% of deportations occurred through fast-track, nonjudicial processes where individuals had no right to counsel or formal hearings12.
     
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  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    That's not what the ACLU article says as outlined in your link. You are just providing the false claim.

    Obama did not remove people under the "Alien Enemies Act" -- Trump is doing this.

    Furthermore the information also notes that the ACLU did not challenge the removals under Obama. If they had, then some evidence could have possibly come to light if any immigrant was deported under Obama outside the designated process.
     
  7. ipatent

    ipatent

     
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  8. Is the issue due process or not?

    Is using the Alien Enemies Act the only way to deny due process?

    So, as long as Trump doesn't use authority under the Alien Enemies Act, you are fine with Trump denying due process?

    The only problem is the Alien Enemies Act?

    https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/speed-over-fairness-deportation-under-obama

    where the vast majority of people facing deportation had immigration court hearings, to a system today of nonjudicial removals, where 75 percent of people removed do not see a judge before being expelled from the U.S.

    The numbers are staggering: in 1995, 1,400 immigrants were subject to nonjudicial removals, representing 3 percent of total deportations. By FY 2012 that number had sharply increased to 313,000 nonjudicial removals – an all-time high.

    Under today's removal system, only one quarter of all people facing expulsion get to present their case before an immigration judge. These judges, employed by the Justice Department, are experts in immigration law. They conduct formal court hearings where they hear live witnesses, review documentary evidence, and evaluate applications for immigration relief.

    By contrast, nonjudicial removals are fast-track proceedings wholly controlled by the Department of Homeland Security ("DHS"), sometimes involving only a single border agent who acts as both judge and jury. Those facing nonjudicial removal have no lawyer and no chance to appeal.

    The Obama administration has prioritized speed over fairness in the removal system, sacrificing individualized due process in the pursuit of record removal numbers.

    A deportation system that herds 75 percent of people through fast-track, streamlined removal is a system devoid of fairness and individualized due process. Nonjudicial removals violate our constitutional tradition and cannot be reconciled with an administration that has repeatedly stated its commitment to immigration reform.


     
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  9. vztrdr

    vztrdr

    Good.
    Deport anyone that says "Free Luigi." Send them to CECOT. And sell their property on a GSA auction. Every penny counts.

    Cold blooded murder is a tad bit more dangerous than yelling "fire" in a crowded theater even though said fire does not exist. And SCOTUS has said the protections for this type of behavior does not exist with regards to our 1st Amendment rights. Long before Trump.

    Does "Free Luigi" count as a CECOT worthy offense? Probably not... but a few ("we made a mistake") examples might be worth it.

    Either way, if I had an avatar like that... I'd be doing some serious worrying about the likes of PLTR AI and such.... if you ever want to board an airplane again. jmho. :cool:
     
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Thanks for making clear that you support the federal invasion of the homes of U.S citizens without a valid search warrant along with the theft of any of their belongings of value and the trashing of their homes.

    When it happens to you then don't come whining to us.