Dems might have their next Obama

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tony Stark, Nov 10, 2022.

  1. Another Obama in the White House? Hell no. We don't need cops getting massacred again and the cops shooting blacks in the back of the head for no good reason again.

    "The country always didn't love them back". Feeling sorry for himself and his family. How funny.

    No, this guy doesn't stand a chance of making it to the White House. What a joke.

    And yes, just because he is Black doesn't make him like Obama.
     
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    #11     Nov 10, 2022
  2. Ricter

    Ricter

    Not racist unless a disparagement that generalizes to all "blacks" is made.

    Edit: to be fair, I suppose it does not have to be disparagement. Still, you (should) get the point.
     
    #12     Nov 10, 2022
  3. He lacks the charisma of Obama and came across as a little smug in the debates to me. The guy he was running against was a complete clown and Larry Hogan said he wasn’t voting for him.
     
    #13     Nov 10, 2022
  4. You’re right about AOC sounding too young (and snobby). It’s obviously harder for black people and it’s harder for women to become president. Needless to say, black women have double the trouble and unfairly have an uphill battle. Black women who come across as angry have no chance. You have to be able to connect with white independents. If a black woman is going to be president she needs to be more like Oprah. Val Demmings is way less off-putting than Nina Turner, but she got smoked. Not sure about Beasily, who ran a close race. Haven’t watched any of her. Stacey Abrams is becoming more and more off-putting to white voters. I think this election ended her. Harris is very unpopular and was above her qualifications becoming VP. Those are all the black women I can think of that have been discussed nationally. Needless to say, I don’t think a black woman will be elected POTUS in 2024.
     
    #14     Nov 10, 2022
  5. A lot of young people like AOC. My kids just adore her. :( Democratic socialism is something they like. I guess because it goes against the mainstream Politics of the older generations which they seem to despise.
     
    #15     Nov 10, 2022
  6. Ricter

    Ricter

    Can't blame them. Mainstream politics, and this economic system for that matter, has been useless to many young people.
     
    #16     Nov 10, 2022
  7. Whenever somebody calls themselves a Democratic Socialist they guarantee that at least 45% of the country won't vote for them. It's really stupid politics. The truth is that every single developed nation is a hybrid with mixes of capitalism and socialism. There's things run by the private sector with regulations, public-private partnerships, and things run entirely by the public sector (fire departments, law & order, the military, etc). Most of the debate around socialism in this country revolves around healthcare and what kind of system do we want. I personally really hate to eliminate private competition, because I think the private sector is more innovative than a government bureaucracy could ever be. However, we're currently seeing too many industries become monopolized or at least oligopolies which hurts competition/prices and sometimes innovation as well.
     
    #17     Nov 10, 2022
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  8. Just watched this video. Honestly, he comes across as intelligent, but speaks too fast. He needs to be able to get some blue-collared whites like Obama was able to do. This isn't going to cut it. He needs to slow it down and sound more conversational.
     
    #18     Nov 10, 2022
  9. Ricter

    Ricter

    Well said. Though if government loans money for R&D, and applies good oversight, those privately developed products can be quite profitable to society.
     
    #19     Nov 10, 2022
  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Maryland is 60% white and elected a moderate Republican Governor the last 2 terms,he would do great with moderate whites as he just did becoming Governor.His military and educational background is perfect.I have the same feeling about him as I did for Obama when he first came on the scene .I have a no vote for,donate to or volunteer for moderate democrat policy,but I'd likely make an exception for him.
     
    #20     Nov 10, 2022