Dems, GOP Prepare for Possible Rod Rosenstein Ouster with Competing Articles of Impeachment

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Optionpro007, Apr 14, 2018.

  1. As TreeFrogTrader correctly states, nothing to worry. Hope Trump can fix as many things as possible before the mob kicks him out.
     
    #41     Apr 16, 2018
  2. piezoe

    piezoe

    Whether he is a criminal or not is to be determined. It bothers me of course that he most likely is. But my concern is that he is, in my opinion, making one bad decisions after another. That's something we can agree to disagree on.
     
    #42     Apr 16, 2018
  3. Of course, anybody can make mistakes, and when the stakes are high, the price can be high, but so are the rewards. Either way, if you believe he is a criminal, what do you think about Hillary? Wasn't everything she is
    accused of doing, much, much worse, than anything Trump could have done?

    And how do you see Trump as a criminal? The only thing he is being accused of is a fictitious Russian collusion story, that if anything, fits best with the DNC FBI use of a fake dossier to try to keep a presidential candidate from winning an election. Now, that is all factual and it is totally criminal.

    Which 'bad' decisions Trump has made do you disagree with? just curious..
     
    #43     Apr 16, 2018
  4. piezoe

    piezoe

    Time and time again the Clinton's have emerged from investigations without sufficient evidence for indictment. In fact, with one exception (Bill's perjury) no evidence whatsoever of criminal activity was produced. There is a difference between rule breaking and bad judgement and active participation in illegal activity with both intent and damage. In general, successful prosecution is going to require showing intent, or damages, or both; what might have been is not usually going to be worth the prosecutors time.

    Behind the many accusations hurled at the Clintons, there has usually been absolutely nothing but crazy innuendo. But yes there has been bad judgement on the Clinton's' part a number of times. If we make bad judgement a felony then we are all felons. That is just a fact. The single exception beyond Bill's perjury is Clinton receiving on her server some email that should not have been sent to an insecure server. There was no evidence of malicious intent, nor any of damages. It is a very weak case not worth prosecuting. The situation would have been somewhat different had she been an intentional sender of classified documents to a non-secure server. There is plenty of precedent. And precedent was correctly followed in deciding that the odds of a successful prosecution were nil -- and having nothing to do with Ms Clinton's political connections. I predicted this from the outset. (I've had considerable personal experience with the classification system and the handing of classified documents, and I am familiar with the differences between those cases that were prosecutable and those that were not. The Petraeus case, for example, was prosecutable; the Clinton instance was not. We will have to wait and see what transpires in the Trump case.

    I'd recommend trying to avail yourself of a broader view. It would help to keep things in perspective.
     
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    #44     Apr 16, 2018
  5. DTB2

    DTB2

    What bad luck the Clinton's must have to have been involved in Whitewater, Rose Law Firm shenanigans, sexual improprieties, those deep in the red cattle trades that eventually turned hugely profitable, troopergate, travelgate, Foggy Bottom, Benghazi, Filegate, accidentally removing White House furnishings and the trail of dead friends and colleagues.

    Terrible bad luck I tell ya!
     
    #45     Apr 16, 2018
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  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    DACA was popular when Obama first passed it and has been ever since.People have been against tax cuts for the rich for years.Most republicans polices are unpopular which is why most people voted for the democrat candidate in 6 of the last 7 presidential elections.Trump did not make them unpopular although I'll concede republican polices coming from a piece of shit like Trump makes them more unpopular than coming from a more likeable republican.
     
    #46     Apr 16, 2018
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  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    The USC/LAtimes poll,I remember for months prior to the election they said Trump would win the popular vote by multiple points and he lost by millions.They were even worse than Rasmussen :wtf:
     
    #47     Apr 16, 2018
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  8. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    #48     Apr 16, 2018
  9. DTB2

    DTB2

    Still leaning on those polls? How'd that work out with Trump last time. Get real.
     
    #49     Apr 16, 2018
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  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Lost by millions won The EC by 80,000.Biden is more popular than Hillary and democrat enthusiasm and turn out is and will be much higher in 2020.I don't recall Hillary ever having a 17 point lead over Trump in any polls either.
     
    #50     Apr 16, 2018