Demon Sperm Doctors Group That Met With Pence Is Now Pushing COVID Vaccine Fears

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Dec 16, 2020.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I'm not arguing left or right in anything I talk about. All I'm saying is why should we trust the "expert" that doesn't give us consistent advice? Why should we trust an "expert" if they are lying about anything?
     
    #71     Dec 17, 2020
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    You don't have to trust anyone, you can mainline bleach for all I care
     
    #72     Dec 17, 2020
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The majority of non-surgical masks worn in public aim to stop the transmission of particles— which reduces the spread of COVID.

    N95 masks are designed to stop people from breathing in particles. This is why they are used in hospitals and industrial settings such as paint spray booths. The proper instructions for using an N95 mask (some which have valves, etc.) are more complex than put the mask on your face.
     
    #73     Dec 17, 2020
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yes, I agree that they wanted to avoid the hoarding of surgical N95 equipment and urged people not to use these surgical masks in the spring. At no point did the CDC come out and say “don’t use non-surgical masks”.
     
    #74     Dec 17, 2020
  5. heypa

    heypa

    Experts should always tell the truth when asked questions within their area of expertise. When asked questions outside their expertise area they should say so and explain their lack of response. If they have been directed by a higher authority to lie they can just say "no comment".People should catch on to the situation soon enough.
     
    #75     Dec 17, 2020
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  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I'm well aware I don't have to trust anyone. But some of you are making the point we should. So I'm making the point we shouldn't. Happy to debate it, if you are able to.
     
    #76     Dec 17, 2020
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Ah. So it is your theory that the CDC said N95 masks (which are the only masks actually effective) were not effective because people didn't know how to properly use them, but that bandanas, baklavas, wash clothes and other stylistic masks people wear to feel better actually DO work (despite being less than effective vis a vis an N95) and this was kind of a "we're just kidding, they actually are effective!" head fake from the CDC?

    Be careful you don't sprain a muscle with all these gymnastics in order to justify what is obvious folly to anyone not thoroughly brainwashed.
     
    #77     Dec 17, 2020
  8. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    debatable:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-face-masks-how-effective-are-they-evidence-so-far-2020-3
    The truth about face masks and the coronavirus: Wearing masks in crowded places may help reduce the spread, but it isn't a perfect solution

    The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention "does not currently recommend the use of face masks for the general public," the agency said, again and again, on nearly daily briefing calls with reporters in late January and early February, as the coronavirus spread rapidly through China.

    and the spin:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/fau...cause-doctors-shortages-from-the-start-2020-6
    Fauci said US government held off promoting face masks because it knew shortages were so bad that even doctors couldn't get enough

    "Now we have masks, and we know that you don't need an N95 if you're an ordinary person in the street," he said. "We also know that simple cloth coverings that many people have can work as well as a mask in many cases."

    and who can forget the Trumptard's tweet, aka CDC bossman, aka leading authority figure on health of the country:

     
    #78     Dec 17, 2020
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  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Precisely. Thank you for being honest.
     
    #79     Dec 17, 2020
  10. jem

    jem

    Its a bullshit without data. The data showed Covid is not spread in playgrounds. But our asshole governor shut them down. Then when challenged...he opened them up.

    You want people to follow rules...make rational rules and produce the data supporting your rules. We have power hungry assholes making rules for political reasons.

    The reality is...the high risk should have been locked down...not the healthy. Now because of stupid rules which failed, we have to lock down again. Masks have not prevented this. we wear them.
     
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    #80     Dec 17, 2020