democrats will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

Discussion in 'Politics' started by chewbacca, Mar 11, 2008.

  1. It was the Clintons who put the cabosh on Al's run in 2000. They wanted him out of the way for Hillary's run now and they did not want to give up their control of the Dem party. She'd be really steamed if Al ended up getting the nomination. That would be fun to watch.

    I don't think she would be "change." How is Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton change?
     
    #11     Mar 11, 2008
  2. gnome

    gnome

    Like changing a dirty diaper with another dirty diaper.
     
    #12     Mar 11, 2008
  3. The names aren't changing but the policies would. There is a considerable difference between Bush 1 and Bush 2 (about 130 IQ points at least (lol)) and either of the Clintons.

    The facts are this: both families are competent, successful people who understand the concepts of 'moderation' and 'compromise'. Both families are, appropriately, Socialist.

    The major difference lies in the source of their convictions: the Bush's believe is the supernatural (Jesus), the Clintons trust in the logic of science. This is why the Bush's have led us into an un-ending war that we cannot win. The Clintons will lead us into a world where the balance-of-power prevails. A balance-of-power is the best course for all of us.
     
    #13     Mar 11, 2008


  4. http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/116906.aspx

    "Do you believe in the father, son and Holy Spirit?
    Hillary: "Yes"
    "The atoning death of Jesus?"
    Hillary: "Yes"


    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/05/politics/main2885701.shtml



    "I am very grateful that I had a grounding in faith that gave me the courage and the strength to do what I thought was right, regardless of what the world thought," Clinton said during a forum where the three leading Democratic presidential candidates talked about faith and values.

    "I'm not sure I would have gotten through it without my faith," she said in response to a question about how she dealt with the infidelity.






    John
     
    #14     Mar 11, 2008
  5. I bet she had her fingers crossed when she said that bullshit!! (However, if it makes YOU like her then have FAITH
    in her statements).

    It's one thing to state an affirmation of the populace's superstitions on the campaign trail and a totally different thing to base one's world view on these beliefs.

    Trust me on this: Hilliary knows that the myths of the Bible and the Koran stem from the same boogy-man. She, as will Obama, will support policies that are, for the most part, best for us all.

    I have no doubt that McCain will THINK he is doing what is best for the world, (as I'm sure Bush thinks he is doing), but they are flat-out wrong. Conviction does not equal correct thinking.

    As stated earlier, you like what's happening vote McCain; otherwise vote for change.
     
    #15     Mar 11, 2008
  6. Gord

    Gord

    I love it when an opportunity presents itself to recycle a substantive post. From the thread Bush Tap-Dancing On White House Steps! in response to a claim of Bush being the worst president in a generation:

    As far as Bush being "THE WORST President of our generation", did you forget about president Clinton?

    He started his presidency with an expanding economy and left it in a disaster. First there was the stock market bust. And don't forget about the Enron, Tyco, Worldcom, Global Crossing, etc. fiascoes. Those led to a recession (remember it was president Clinton that declared that the business cycle was over - LOL). Then there was the "Wall" which he erected between the FBI, the NSA and the CIA so they could not share information and dig into his Chinese money-laundering, and which led to the security intel failure of 9/11. Oh, and don't forget about allowing Laural Space to hand the Chinese antiballistic missile technology that brought them 30 years ahead, and now they have nukes that can reach N.A. (was that a payoff for the laundered money they contributed to his campaigns or was it from being blackmailed over Monica or other "interns"?). And then after much posturing in 1998 about Saddam's WMD's president Clinton instead left his mess for president Bush to solve:

    Transcript President Clinton explains Iraq strike - December 16, 1998

    http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stor...ts/clinton.html

    "The hard fact is that so long as Saddam remains in power, he threatens the well-being of his people, the peace of his region, the security of the world."

    "The best way to end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi government - a government ready to live in peace with its neighbors, a government that respects the rights of its people."

    "If Saddam defies the world and we fail to respond, we will face a far greater threat in the future. Saddam will strike again at his neighbors. He will make war on his own people."

    "And mark my words, he will develop weapons of mass destruction. He will deploy them, and he will use them."

    President Clinton should have invaded Iraq in 1998 when Saddam kicked the UN inspectors out, and they knew he still had stockpiles of WMD's. But we all know that Clinton was just a poser - everything he said and did was with an eye on the polls (and the Monika problem).

    President Clinton also let North Korea continue to develop its nuclear weapons program without repercussions even though he supposedly "negotiated" an agreement with the N. Koreans to not make nukes.

    The political correctness of the Clinton administration had CIA operatives sewing "diversity quilts" supposedly to make them more sensitive to the countries they were supposed to spy on. That and similar nonsense allowed Libya to develop a nuclear weapons program even more sophisticated and mature than today's Iran program. (Thank goodness Bush invaded Iraq, which directly led to Libya voluntarily giving up its nuke program so it would not be the next country invaded by Bush - that alone makes the Iraq war worthwhile.)

    President Clinton will always be known as the "blue dress" joke-of-a-president who couldn't keep his pants up, or his enemies down.

    And you think Bush is "THE WORST President of our generation"?!? Give your head a shake...


    Bill Clinton "qualified"?!? Hardly. He was a complete disaster. But I do agree that Al would be just as good... :p
     
    #16     Mar 12, 2008
  7. Mercor

    Mercor

    Thrid parties are not the solution.
    You end up with a party winning with only 1/3 of the vote..Like Spain, the socialist won with 34% of the vote, meaning 64% voted for someone else.

    3 parties put to much power into the hands of small minorities.
     
    #17     Mar 12, 2008
  8. I posted that just to show you have no clue as to what you are saying.

    You democrats are so fun to fuck with because you are so
    ignorant. Blind to the truth, blind to history, blind to reality.

    Btw, of course Hillary was lying. The clintons are the modern day bonnie and clyde. Liars, cheats, thieves.

    John
     
    #18     Mar 12, 2008
  9. Don't forget Sandy "Sticky Fingers" Berger. Just imagine what the press would do if the NSA of an republican president was caught stealing and destroying evidence so it would not go to the 9/11 commission.

    John
     
    #19     Mar 12, 2008
  10. Gord

    Gord

    C'mon, don't be too hard on 'im. He was just "sloppy". Anybody could have accidently left the archives with secret documents stuffed their socks... :D

    By the way - it is believed that some of the documents that disappeared were to do the the "Wall" I mentioned.
     
    #20     Mar 12, 2008