Democrats have engineered a disaster!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by maxpi, Jul 9, 2013.

  1. Ricter

    Ricter

    Lol, you whiny babies, nothing is working out like you dreamed.

    Health Plan Cost for New Yorkers Set to Fall 50%
    By RONI CARYN RABIN and REED ABELSON
    Published: July 16, 2013

    "Individuals buying health insurance on their own will see their premiums tumble next year in New York State as changes under the federal health care law take effect, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo announced on Wednesday.

    "State insurance regulators say they have approved rates for 2014 that are at least 50 percent lower on average than those currently available in New York. Beginning in October, individuals in New York City who now pay $1,000 a month or more for coverage will be able to shop for health insurance for as little as $308 monthly. With federal subsidies, the cost will be even lower.

    "Supporters of the new health care law, the Affordable Care Act, credited the drop in rates to the online purchasing exchanges the law created, which they say are spurring competition among insurers that are anticipating an influx of new customers. The law requires that an exchange be started in every state.

    “Health insurance has suddenly become affordable in New York,” said Elisabeth Benjamin, vice president for health initiatives with the Community Service Society of New York. “It’s not bargain-basement prices, but we’re going from Bergdorf’s to Filene’s here.”

    “The extraordinary decline in New York’s insurance rates for individual consumers demonstrates the profound promise of the Affordable Care Act,” she added.

    "Administration officials, long confronted by Republicans and other critics of President Obama’s signature law, were quick to add New York to the list of states that appear to be successfully carrying out the law and setting up exchanges.

    “We’re seeing in New York what we’ve seen in other states like California and Oregon — that competition and transparency in the marketplaces are leading to affordable and new choices for families,” said Joanne Peters, a spokeswoman for the Department of Health and Human Services.

    "The new premium rates do not affect a majority of New Yorkers, who receive insurance through their employers, only those who must purchase it on their own. Because the cost of individual coverage has soared, only 17,000 New Yorkers currently buy insurance on their own. About 2.6 million are uninsured in New York State.

    "State officials estimate as many as 615,000 individuals will buy health insurance on their own in the first few years the health law is in effect. In addition to lower premiums, about three-quarters of those people will be eligible for the subsidies available to lower-income individuals.

    “New York’s health benefits exchange will offer the type of real competition that helps drive down health insurance costs for consumers and businesses,” said Mr. Cuomo.

    "The plans to be offered on the exchanges all meet certain basic requirements, as laid out in the law, but are in four categories from most generous to least: platinum, gold, silver and bronze. An individual with annual income of $17,000 will pay about $55 a month for a silver plan, state regulators said. A person with a $20,000 income will pay about $85 a month for a silver plan, while someone earning $25,000 will pay about $145 a month for a silver plan.

    "The least expensive plans, some offered by newcomers to the market, may not offer wide access to hospitals and doctors, experts said.

    "While the rates will fall over all, apples-to-apples comparisons are impossible from this year to next because all of the plans are essentially new insurance products.

    "The rates for small businesses, which are considerably lower than for individuals, will not fall as precipitously. But small businesses will be eligible for tax credits, and the exchanges will make it easier for them to select a plan. Roughly 15,000 plans are available today to small businesses, and choosing among them is particularly challenging.

    “Where New York previously had a dizzying array of thousands upon thousands of plans, small businesses will now be able to truly comparison-shop for the best prices,” said Benjamin M. Lawsky, the state’s top financial regulator.

    "Officials at the state Department of Financial Services say they have approved 17 insurers to sell individual coverage through the New York exchange, including eight that are just entering the state’s commercial market. Many of these are insurers specializing in Medicaid plans that cater to low-income individuals. " More >>
     
    #21     Jul 17, 2013
  2. pspr

    pspr

    Don't believe everything you read at the NYT, Rectum.

    The Times Falsely Claims That Obamacare Cuts N.Y. Health Premiums By 50 Percent

    In an enthusiastic front-page story in today’s New York Times, Roni Caryn Rabin and Reed Abelson claim that, as a result of Obamacare, health insurance premiums for individuals shopping on their own for coverage will be “at least 50 percent lower on average than those currently available in New York” because “individuals in New York City who now pay $1,000 a month or more for coverage will be able to shop for health insurance for as little as $308 monthly.” See, Obamacare works!

    Sounds great, except for a couple of points:

    •New York has one of the costliest and least functional individual-insurance markets in the nation, because many of the regulations that Obamacare imposes nationwide are already present in New York, on steroids. Hence, New York’s market is far from typical.
    •In 2010, average per-person monthly premiums in the New York individual market were not “$1,000 or more,” but $357. Even less expensive plans can be found today on ehealthinsurance.com.

    I’ll publish a more detailed analysis of New York’s insurance rates soon, but in the meantime, take the Times piece with a big grain of salt.


    http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...e-cuts-ny-health-premiums-50-percent-avik-roy
     
    #22     Jul 17, 2013
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Oops.
     
    #23     Jul 18, 2013
  4. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Some people will believe anything.

     
    #24     Jul 18, 2013
  5. Ricter

    Ricter

    Fair enough. So you believe what you're reading from this guy, from the internet? The OP, from the internet? ; )
     
    #25     Jul 18, 2013
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Just as much as I read anything from the NY Times - aka the Mouthpiece of the Administration - yes.
     
    #26     Jul 18, 2013
  7. jem

    jem

    I suspected the Times article was lying to us again when I read this...

    “We’re seeing in New York what we’ve seen in other states like California and Oregon — that competition and transparency in the marketplaces are leading to affordable and new choices for families,” said Joanne Peters, a spokeswoman for the Department of Health and Human Services."


    Last we read, one of the few insurance companies here was leaving the state because of Obamacare.
     
    #27     Jul 18, 2013
  8. pspr

    pspr

    We just don't believe anything you post from the peanut gallery.
     
    #28     Jul 18, 2013
  9. Ricter

    Ricter

    Still steamed...
     
    #29     Jul 18, 2013
  10. pspr

    pspr

    Your steamed? I thought you were just stupid.

    BTW, here's another story that slams the NYT ignorant article.

    <a href=http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/07/18/the-new-york-times-tries-and-fails-to-save-obamacare-from-health-insurance-rate-shock/>The NY Times Tries -- And Fails -- To Protect Obamacare From Health Insurance 'Rate Shock'</a>
     
    #30     Jul 18, 2013