Democrat Policies Set LA on Fire

Discussion in 'Politics' started by echopulse, Jan 9, 2025.

  1. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    These rich people are solving their problems themselves. That’s the proper republican way. Poor people are losers who are sucking on the government teet. I like winners.
     
    #71     Jan 12, 2025
  2. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    I do not see anything wrong with this if someone has the money to pay such a ridiculous fee for a service in a crisis but I do understand people will see those who are privilege affording better care/priority than those who do not have money to do that.

    This is no different than traveling nurses/medical professionals making $800 dollars per hour at hospitals who could afford them during the worst of the Covid Pandemic, private military contractors hired by rich people for thousands of dollars per day in a war zone, or someone paying thousands of dollars per hour to rescue a love one lost at sea in a hurricane when the coast guard says it's too dangerous for them to do a search/rescue.

    Yet, some may classify this as a form of "price gouging" along the lines of paying $100 dollars for a can of Lysol during the Covid Pandemic.​

    This is what happens in a free market (capitalism) when state officials or government are not able to protect you because their hands are too full (too many suffering) or do not have the man power to deal with a crisis.

    wrbtrader
     
    #72     Jan 12, 2025
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Man arrested with blowtorch near Kenneth Fire revealed to be illegal immigrant
    https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/l...ay-gavin-newsom-firefight-budget#post-41bb30c

    A suspect seen holding a blowtorch near wildfires is an illegal immigrant that was recently detained, Fox News has learned.

    Sources from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement told Fox News on Sunday that the suspect, named Juan Manuel Sierra-Leyva, is a Mexican national. The suspect went viral after a social media video showed a group of good Samaritans subduing him near the Kenneth Fire while he was holding a blowtorch.

    The suspect is in custody on a probation violation and has not been charged with arson. ICE plans to place a detainer request on him with the L.A. County Sheriff's Department, but they do not expect it to be honored due to California's "sanctuary state" law, sources told Fox.

    (Article has video)
     
    #73     Jan 12, 2025
  4. Mercor

    Mercor

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    #74     Jan 13, 2025
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  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Some more information outlining that the existing fire hydrants and water infrastructure in cities are designed to address a small number of building fires, not a wholesale forest fire.

    Why hydrants ran dry as firefighters battled California’s deadly fires
    https://hasanjasim.online/why-hydrants-ran-dry-as-firefighters-battled-californias-deadly-fires/

    As California’s wildfires grow increasingly devastating, a troubling issue has emerged: dry fire hydrants and inadequate water pressure in critical moments. This article explores the reasons behind these challenges, their impact on firefighting efforts, and the urgent need for urban water infrastructure upgrades.

    The Alarming Reality of Dry Hydrants
    Firefighters combating blazes in Los Angeles, including the Palisades and Eaton fires, reported hydrants running dry. These fires have destroyed thousands of homes and pushed local water systems to their limits. The cause? A combination of aging infrastructure, insufficient storage, and urban water systems not designed for large-scale wildfires.

    Martin Adams, former general manager of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power (DWP), explained:

    “The system has never been designed to fight a wildfire that envelops an entire community.”

    Key Challenges in Urban Water Systems

    1. Water System Design Limitations
      Urban water systems are typically built to handle localized fires in homes or commercial buildings. Massive wildfires, however, demand water volumes far beyond the system’s capacity.
    2. Topographical Constraints
      Areas like Pacific Palisades rely on gravity-fed water storage tanks. During the recent fires, these tanks ran dry as firefighters drew water faster than it could be replenished.
    3. Power Outages and Equipment Damage
      Fire-induced power outages further exacerbated water shortages, cutting off pumps and reducing pressure in hydrants.
    4. Rising Wildfire Intensity
      Climate change-driven “climate whiplash” — abrupt shifts from wet to dry weather — has made wildfires more frequent and intense. Current water infrastructure struggles to keep up.
    Emergency Measures Taken
    To combat water shortages, city officials deployed tanker trucks to supply water to fire crews. Backup generators and borrowed water from neighboring utilities helped mitigate the crisis in some areas. Yet, these measures highlighted the lack of preparedness for such large-scale disasters.

    The Cost of Inaction

    Experts like Kathryn Sorensen from Arizona State University argue that investments in expanded water storage are essential.

    “Given the known risk of wildfires, it’s fair to question whether more water storage should have been added in previous years.”


    Similarly, Gregory Pierce of UCLA noted that while upgrades would be costly, they are increasingly necessary as wildfires become the norm.

    The Path Forward: Building Resilient Water Systems
    1. Expand Water Storage Capacity
      Cities must build additional storage tanks, especially in high-risk, hillside areas.
    2. Modernize Infrastructure
      Upgrading pipelines, pumps, and pressure systems can ensure better water flow during emergencies.
    3. Adopt Advanced Firefighting Solutions
      Innovative solutions like using swimming pools, ocean water, and mobile reservoirs should become standard practice.
    4. Community Investment
      Residents in fire-prone areas may need to fund these improvements through higher utility fees or taxes.
    California’s wildfires expose the vulnerabilities in urban water systems. Addressing these issues will require significant investment, innovative solutions, and a commitment to future-proofing infrastructure. As the climate crisis intensifies, cities across the West must act now to ensure their water systems can meet the demands of a rapidly changing environment.

    (Article has pictures and other information)


     
    #76     Jan 13, 2025
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #77     Jan 13, 2025
  8. Mercor

    Mercor

    Either there was a shortage of water or a shortage of tactics to apply water
    Why is Newson fighting this

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    #78     Jan 13, 2025
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The reality is that there is not a single city in the U.S. -- or in the world -- that has the water structure designed to fight large scale wildfires. This is not going to change due to cost constraints. For instance, updating the L.A. water structure to a level to fight the type of wildfire they are experiencing now would cost more than the entire state of California budget for the next ten years. No city is going to spend this type of money to guard against a once in a 100 year event. Cost vs. benefit.
     
    #79     Jan 13, 2025
  10. Mercor

    Mercor

    One thought politicians should learn ix "know the neighborhood"
    You have snowplows where there is snow
    When you live in the mountains that catch fire, you prepare a water system to handle that
     
    #80     Jan 13, 2025