Dem Congressman: ‘We’ve Proved That Communism Works’

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Max E., May 21, 2014.

  1. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    My first thought as well.
     
    #21     May 23, 2014
  2. I'll see if I can find something, I'm bored.
     
    #22     May 23, 2014
  3. jem

    jem

    I was in a country as it was coming out of communism.
    Yugoslavia 1988.

    1. --- everyone had a job. 12 men got up from drinking a beer and smoking at about 10 a.m. to sweep 1 tennis court before a minor league tennis match.
    Note... I found this shocking because as a 14 year old kid I swept 7-9 tennis courts by myself.

    2. while in Yugoslavia I met tennis players from the eastern block. I can provide many examples of how communism sucked... but the one that stands out even today in my mind was
    the very good tennis player from romania taking shaking as a he gave a friend of mine a few dollars to buy levi's in italy on our day trip across the border.
    the take away -

    a. he and the other eastern block guys had no freedom to cross the border to italy. (please ponder that and what it means to be a commie and why they restrict travel and info and freedom)
    b. the economy in the eastern block sucked so bad and was so distorted there was a black market for levis.
    c. what he was doing could have gotten him and his family very punished.


    so yeah... it should not be trendy to be a commie.
    a person really needs to understand what happens to countries as the govt takes over.
    to all those on the left... you are supporting fascims not classical liberalism... you all are that duped.


     
    #23     May 23, 2014
  4. Ricter

    Ricter

    Fair point. Still, the countries above us on the chart for the most part don't look like countries where people are not enjoying the nicer things in life.
     
    #24     May 23, 2014
  5. What is noteworthy about the table is that the top 10-12 countries are all smaller, homogeneous countries without large underclasses of blacks or muslims. Either explicitly, in the case of countries like Switzerland, or implicitly, they have rejected the fantasy that "diversity makes us stronger."
     
    #25     May 23, 2014
  6. Ricter

    Ricter

    It's true, there is a lot less inequality in many of those societies than in ours.
     
    #26     May 23, 2014
  7. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Oops now there's is an inconvenient truth.
     
    #27     May 23, 2014
  8. fhl

    fhl

    I'd like to see the raw data in that chart. Every one of the figures is supplied by a gov't that has adjusted the hell out of it. Just like the US does.
     
    #28     May 23, 2014
  9. I did search a little then I had to go take care of some stuff. Despite the world bank and ILO tracking employment information, they don't have what we were looking for. It seems they do track public sector employment. If so, we could get the private sector only ratio with the available info, but I'm not gonna do that atm.

    Also, the numbers ricter posted are a bit selective. The ratio for the entire eligible population changes the picture significantly, according to the world bank. http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SL.EMP.TOTL.SP.ZS

    Here's the top ten from ricters list:

    Switzerland 65
    Austria 58
    Sweden 59
    Iceland 70
    Norway 63
    Netherlands 61
    Slovenia 53
    Germany 57
    Luxembourg 55
    Czech Republic 55

    United States 58

    And who knew everyone had jobs in all these 3rd world countries? Seriously check out all the african countries with huge employment %. lmfao.
     
    #29     May 23, 2014
  10. Ricter

    Ricter

    Respectful nod to a counter-argument without insult. : )

    (I would suspect that much of Africa's story is probably about low productivity and large agricultural sectors.)
     
    #30     May 23, 2014