Dell LBO: fair price?

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by freddel, Feb 11, 2013.

  1. Surprise

    Surprise

    If the deal don't go through , what will happen to the stock price ?
     
    #11     Mar 7, 2013
  2. freddel

    freddel

    #12     Mar 7, 2013
  3. Surprise

    Surprise

    #13     Mar 7, 2013
  4. freddel

    freddel

    I think that Southeastern Asset Management and Icahn are looking for a small improvement like 10-12%=>$15

    So you can a make bull spread-call either like this (depending on how long you believe it will take to sweeten the deal):

    1.Long a call @ $14 and short a call @ $15 expiration Aug/16/2013

    You are net debit 0.67-0.25=$0.42
    Breakeven @$14.67
    Maximum return-> 0.33/0.42= 78.57%

    2.Long a call @ $13 and short a call @ $15 expiration Jan/17/2014

    You are net debit of 1.53-0.37=$1.16
    Breakeven @ $14.53
    Max return 0.47/1.16= 40.51%
     
    #14     Mar 7, 2013
  5. freddel

    freddel

    If you assign a probability of success of 75%
    The expected payoff is:

    *Expiration Aug/16/2013
    0.75x0.33=0.2475
    (0.25x0.42=0.105)
    =0.1425

    *Expiration Jan/17/2014
    0.75x0.47=0.3525
    (0.25x1.16=0.29)
    =0.06

    Now if you are conservative and assign a probability of success of 60%
    The expected payoff is:

    *Expiration Aug/16/2013
    0.6x0.33=0.198
    (0.4x0.42=0.168)
    =0.03

    *Expiration Jan/17/2014
    0.6x0.47=0.282
    (0.4x1.16=0.464)
    = -0.182

    And if you are more bearish you can make the opposite trade
     
    #15     Mar 7, 2013
  6. Surprise

    Surprise

    Thanks mate , i was thinking of a more aggressive approach but apparently the upside is limited we are already trading under 15 , so i am left out with the downside but is it really going to go back to $10 hmmm
     
    #16     Mar 7, 2013
  7. freddel

    freddel

    "At least five analysts see the buyout group increasing the bid to as much as $14.90 to $15 a share. At $15, Dell still would be going private at about 5.4 times profit, the lowest multiple for a technology buyout larger than $1 billion, according to data compiled by Bloomberg."

    "Analysts from Jefferies Group LLC, Mizuho Financial Group Inc., Sterne Agee and GFI Group Inc. said a deal may get done at $15 a share, a 9.9 percent increase from the already agreed upon price."

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-07/dell-bid-at-15-would-still-be-cheap-buyout-real-m-a.html
     
    #17     Mar 8, 2013
  8. Wow don’t you see the strings?

    Dell is a dinosaur in their industry (great company but you can’t outsource everything) but also a household name. It is only a matter of time before someone kills the beast. There is way too much competition to run a profitable business. Dell is going for the last big kill before the end. They go back to privately owned and then a few years later offer the IPO during a new bull market. It is a Big kill when everybody already trusts their brand.. After that the stock sucks the fortunes of moms and pop investors throughout the world as it falls into the hell they call the OTCBB or Pink Sheets… Michael LOL to the bank!

    Genus of Michael Dell!

    Back to flipping burgers I go….
     
    #18     Mar 8, 2013
  9. Surprise

    Surprise

    @ 5.4 times profit :

    How so ? i thought EPS is around 1.35 ?
     
    #19     Mar 9, 2013
  10. freddel

    freddel

    Here's the answer from Bloomberg:

    "We're using EV to t12m Ebitda."



    ---
    Sent From Bloomberg Mobile MSG

    ---- Original Message ----
    From: <xxxx@gmail.com>
    At: 3/9/2013 13:54

    Dear XXX,

    I would please to know how did you get a P/E multiple of 5.4?!

    "At $15, Dell still would be going private at about 5.4 times profit, the
    lowest multiple for a technology buyout larger than $1 billion, according to
    data compiled by Bloomberg."
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-07/dell-bid-at-15-would-still-be-cheap
    -buyout-real-m-a.html#disqus_thread

    The trailing P/E is 9.5 (14.16/1.49) and the leading P/E is 8.96
    (14.16/1.58);
    Your calculation implies an EPS of $2.62222 which 75.98% higher than the
    trailing PE and 75.98% higher than the leading PE.

    Best regards
     
    #20     Mar 9, 2013