Delay: US and Israel must enjoy second coming

Discussion in 'Politics' started by DHS, Jul 28, 2007.

  1. DHS

    DHS

    What "goods" can we even offer? Rugs?
     
    #91     Jul 30, 2007
  2. Everyone eventually gets it right. The second coming comes when everyones got it. It comes for you when you get it.

    "It" is right-minded thinking. The world is insane, built upon an insane idea.

    Help is given when each is ready to learn right-mindedness.

    God has never condemned and never will. The world is a self-condemnation for which He has provided an Answer.

    It is built on a system of "judgment", so it is undone by non-judgment. It ends with the "last judgment". That is, when no more judgments are made.

    In time, this could take a while.

    From eternity, time is finished. Your destiny is known, and your reality remains unchanged by any earthly interlude.

    To separate "goats" from "sheep" is merely to separate truth from illusion in your thoughts. This is the real meaning of religion.

    This sounds like a judgmental process, but actually a way has been provided which allows you to do this without any judgments except how you feel, ie, are you happy?

    The world's misery is perpetuated by an unwillingness to sort out true from false in one's thought process.

    This was not necessary until you made the world, and by necessity became a learner.

    Before that, you knew everything. The world happens when knowledge is denied, and perception takes it's place.

    Perception is a strange way of looking at reality, judging and selecting from it what you wish to see. Perception is a land of uncertainty and doubt, for nothing can ever be known while perceiving. Such is the world.

    Right-minded thinking brings your perception to a point where it hardly differs from knowledge. That's the meaning of "righteousness". From there, it is a short hop, skip and a jump back to knowledge...where you came from. And that will be your "second coming" which is really just a return to knowledge.

    Jesus
     
    #92     Jul 30, 2007
  3. To "convert" is misunderstood.

    It means to convert the purpose of everything you have made to something useful...like going home...like unmaking what you've made.

    Here is a short list of things you have made in order to achieve the impossible:

    Consciousness
    Subconsciousness
    Faith
    Energy
    Perception
    Time
    Form
    Bodies


    You are using mind to make all these things, and using them for the minds destruction.

    For example, to convert a body you simply see it only as a means for telling other minds that they are not bodies...and ultimately one mind.

    You do not need to call yourself a "Christian" to convert your body this way. But if you do, you will begin to head back in the direction of reality, which is Christ, who is spirit.

    Faith is converted when it is placed in truth instead of being used for self-deception.

    Perception is converted when it is used to perceive rightly, in close alignment with reality.

    Time is converted when you transcend it through grace...making it your friend instead of your enemy.

    And so on...

    When you convert a body into a medium of communication, its health is maintained until it's usefulness is finished.

    As you've set it up, the body is for blocking communication.

    When all is converted, the entire world is unmade, and simply disappears.

    Jesus
     
    #93     Jul 30, 2007
  4. btw, this is the biggest crock of shit you could have said. this is standard new age dogma straight from wicca land. fruit cake here is trying to dress it up as some universal love crapola, mother earth la la land.
     
    #94     Jul 30, 2007
  5. I sense your sarcasm, but just because we have a trade deficit doesn't mean we don't have exports.:p
     
    #95     Jul 30, 2007
  6. jem

    jem

    I am not -- when you transcend your mind and ego and fully release yourself to understanding God's will, not yours, you will begin your journey to salvation. Right now you are involved in an intricate web of deception.

    Why are you obfuscating such a simple and elegant message.

    You will see that it is Jesus' faith in God, his perfect love and obedience to his father and therefore his sacrifice for us which is all the sacrifice or complication we need. All of your intellectual work and ambiguous writing has been made completely unnecessary by Jesus. Is it your ego that forces you to make an elegant message messy.

    Jesus saved us. For us to be entitled to his saving grace we must act on his word. As Abraham was willing to act on God's word we must act on Jesus's words to us. All you have to do is take one of his promises and act on it.

    It is so simple and so elegant why must you make it so complex.
     
    #96     Jul 30, 2007
  7. maxpi

    maxpi

    Haggee wants to nuke Iran!! I just call myself a "Bible Reader" because I am not going to identify with guys like that. They start those huge women's clubs they call churches, get lots of $ and they think their very limited understanding of God is going to be worth a lot to the world so they pressure the leaders of the US to bomb people.... people like that are not in a very good place.
     
    #97     Jul 30, 2007
  8. If you look closer, you'll see some differences.

    This is not your mama's crystal bowl.

    Jesus
     
    #98     Jul 30, 2007
  9. isn't there some ramtha forum you could join?
     
    #99     Jul 30, 2007
  10. Repeat this often. Then change your identity to "I am...".

    If I'm involved, then you are involved, for we are one.

    Your catechism is simple and elegant?

    But you see, my brother, sacrifice is very complicated. It permeates the worlds thought system, and builds a world accordingly.

    You cannot buy your way out of it with anything, let alone blood money.

    See, I have simplified it for you: You do not need to sacrifice anything to return to Heaven. Instead, I ask you to stop sacrificing in order to return.

    Sacrifice is a notion totally unknown to God.

    You are projecting your own criteria upon God based on messy theology. Likewise, you project a function on my crucifixion that it does not have, based on guilt you feel is real, and want removed vicariously.

    Sacrifice arises solely from fear, and frightened people can be vicious.

    Sacrificing in any way is a violation of my injunction that you should be merciful even as your Father in Heaven is merciful.

    It has been hard for many Christians to realize that this applies to themselves.

    Good teachers never terrorize their students. To terrorize is to attack, and this results in the rejection of what the teacher offers. The result is a learning failure.

    Innocence is incapable of sacrificing anything, because the innocent mind has everything and strives only to protect its wholeness.

    An innocent mind can only honor other minds, because honor is the natural greeting of the truly loved to other who are like them.

    The Atonement, not sacrifice, is the only appropriate gift for God's alter. And it is to know God's Son as innocent.

    So long as you value guilt, you cannot see that God's Son wanders the world in many forms, many broken pieces.

    All your difficulties stem from the fact that you do not recognize yourself, your brother or God.

    And what you think is guilty, is God's Son. So you have not yet accepted the Atonement for yourself.

    The bible tells you to "know yourself" that you may be healed.

    It also says, "When he shall appear ( or be perceived) we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is".

    When you understand this, you'll also understand the Atonement. To see, you must look from the pov of innocence, total and universal.

    Otherwise, you will not understand what I was teaching on the cross. Nor will you understand my resurrection.

    There is never any justification for guilt, to debit yourself with it, or to credit your brother with it. Innocence is total or not at all. Accept this, and you accept your salvation.

    Act on forgiveness, and you will be saved. But first understand what forgiveness is.

    Btw, have you taken me up on my promise that you would not taste death of you took my words to heart?

    You are entitled to it, when you learn to forgive.

    In time, you are in the process of being saved, and have not yet reached the very first milestone on your return back home.

    You have yet to accept responsibility for everything you see, feel and experience. This is the turning point for every "prodigal" Son.

    From the pov of eternity, you are saved, for time is finished, and you are in Heaven NOW. My efforts were pivotal in your salvation, and without them, you would not have been saved.

    But you overlook the fact that in the Holy Spirit's plan for salvation, everyone plays a pivotal role, without which, none would be saved.

    Vicarious salvation purchased with blood money is not elegant or simple.

    Innocence is simple.

    Jesus
     
    #100     Jul 31, 2007