Dear Abby Uses Column To Promote Radical Gay Agenda

Discussion in 'Politics' started by AAAintheBeltway, Oct 10, 2007.

  1. Turok

    Turok

    Haroki:

    >My point is.....
    >
    >If the claim that sexual preference is genetic - and
    >I'm in agreement with that - then pedos can't be
    >rehabbed....

    (for the sake of this exchange, I will stipulate that pedos are genetically disposed as such. I am not stating this as a fact and don't know if it's true ... though I suspect in most cases it is)

    I'm with you -- a tiger can't change it's stripes.

    >It has nothing to do with the legal argument of
    >"forcing" oneself upon another.

    That's not a "legal argument" Haroki, it's a human one.

    >It has to do with whether a person that injures kids
    >should be let out.

    I don't care pedo, gay, straight -- if you injure someone, anyone you have to do your time. If you injure someone repeatedly and after incarceration, you've shown you can't be trusted to change your behavior and you gotta be taken to the next level of punishment.

    >But the left's ideas seem to run that a pedo
    >can be rehabilitated.

    Define: "rehabilitated"

    A dog who bites can often be taught not to bite. Has it been taught not to *want* to bite? -- doubtful. behavior CAN be changed *sometimes*. I don't think pedos are any special category here ... some offenses *may* deserve a second chance with heavy stings attached -- some not. And second chances don't turn into thirds and fourths -- not in my book. (but then I'm not the "right" nor the "left")

    >They seem to think that with training, they can
    >suppress a sexual preference that is determined
    >at a genetic level.

    I love to talk about this stuff on a non-partisan level Haroki, but with you it can't be done as you always try to launch boulders at the 'other side'. So, since *you* brought up the "left" so harshly I just HAVE to point out more of your/their hypocrisy...

    No political group -- NONE!, espouses that sexual preference can be suppressed MORE OFTEN than your beloved right. Most of them espouse that IF you are homosexual, you can (with god's help, etc) "change" and live a good hetro lifestyle.

    You claiming that the "left" has the monopoly on that thought is just a hollow sham. Once again, I think both positions suck -- precisely because those positions blind people to their own groups follies as they have done you.

    JB
     
    #21     Oct 11, 2007
  2. Turok

    Turok

    Haroki, would you mind clarifying/confirming something for me?

    You have made essentially the same statement twice, though using two different key words.

    first:
    >there is a conflict when one says that gays sexual
    >pref is determined at a genetic levl and can't be changed
    >or suppressed and when one says that a pedos sexual
    >preference CAN be suppressed.

    and then:
    >But the left's ideas seem to run that a pedo
    >can be rehabilitated.

    For the sake of this conversation, are your definitions of "rehabilitated" and "suppressed" reasonably the same?

    Thanks

    JB
     
    #22     Oct 11, 2007
  3. Otherwise you might weaken and go for one???

    Buddy...Live and let live. Locking them in camps will not prevent your son from having a different sexual preference than yours. What would you do to him if he is one???
     
    #23     Oct 11, 2007
  4. Agree that a tiger can't change its' stripes.

    I wouldn't know what the "right" espouses. If you say that they say that a person CAN change their sex preference, ok. I assume that when you say "the right", you're referring to the religious right? I don't care what the right says in this case- I'm not from the right.

    Legal right/human right ends up with the same conclusion - pedophilia is an abomination.

    Rehab - the ability of a pedo to supress their sexual urges. Some might be able to do it, but I put pedos on the same level as murderers. My belief is that life sentences wouldn't be out of order for them. Even for "first" offenders since most, when caught, have been found to be repeat offenders, not first offenders. It's just that they've been caught once. And when you see shows on 20/20 and 60 minutes, the dudes say that they know it's wrong, have remorse for doing it, but can't control their urges..... well, I think that kids should be better protected by keeping them permanently out of range of kids. Prison seems like a good place for that.

    Don't compare dogs to humans, that's ridiculous.
     
    #24     Oct 11, 2007
  5. Dammit - I was waiting for the ES to crash, and while I was writing that post, I missed out on 4 pts...

    You owe me now... LOL :D
     
    #25     Oct 11, 2007
  6. jsl50a

    jsl50a

    Are you insane? All gays should be put in camps. It's the only way not to be tempted by their luscious buttocks.

    My son will not turn out gay. I have him watching nothing but hardcore porn after school instead of Nickelodeon. It's the only way to be sure. And if he turns out gay anyway... to the camp with him.

    Praise Jesus
     
    #26     Oct 11, 2007
  7. Khahahahahahahahahahaha

    :D :D :D

    For a second I took you seriously after you replied back to Turok.
     
    #27     Oct 11, 2007
  8. jsl50a

    jsl50a

    The fact that the climate on this site, especially this section, is so hateful that you took me seriously makes me very proud as a virulent homophobic, anti-semitic and all-around knee-jerk reactionary nut-job.
     
    #28     Oct 11, 2007
  9. Whether or not homosexuality is genetic has NOTHING to do with whether pedophilia is genetic. They are completely orthogonal.

    Let's say I did a study which found that the sexual preference for blonde haired mates has a genetic basis. Would you conclude on the basis of my study alone that preference for violent rape also has a genetic basis? No, because they are completely unrelated behaviors. Nonetheless, they could both be called "sexual preferences," just like you're choosing to call homosexuality and pedophilia "sexual preferences."

    Not all sexual preferences have the same cause. Your choice to conflate homosexuality with pedophilia reveals more about your own suble bigotry than anything else.

    Martin
     
    #29     Oct 11, 2007
  10. Turok

    Turok

    I'm not sure they are as far apart as you are claiming. Let's forget the horrible dominating behavior involved in pedo,etc. for a moment, and only focus on the base attraction.

    Some (wo)men are attracted to obese women
    Some (wo)men are attracted to black guys
    Some (wo)men are attracted to teenage guys
    Some (wo)men are attracted to athletic women
    Some (wo)men are attracted to horses
    Some (wo)men are attracted pre-pubescent boys
    Some (wo)men are attracted to blonds

    How is any of it different -- We are turned on by what we are wired for. I didn't make a choice to be attracted to the fourth on that list, why would I believe that the guy in position six is any different?

    Please, don't confuse the above with a position that says it's ok to F**k whoever, however. I am only discussing the genetics for the moment.

    JB
     
    #30     Oct 11, 2007