Dealing with micro-management

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by Leopard9, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. Instead of having your eyes glued to the screen to see the price action cross your Fibonacci levels you could set an audio alarm in your trading platform if the level is crossed. That will take the tension and stress away that you have to constantly monitor the screen.
     
    #21     Dec 4, 2018
  2. Leopard9

    Leopard9

    Exactly, Fibonacci. Precision is the name of the game. OK, got it. I will investigate it for sure. Better yet, i just remembered i have the nasdaq CFD also wich is even better. Awsome. You are cool dude. Thanks!
     
    #22     Dec 4, 2018
  3. Leopard9

    Leopard9

    Yes true. I would have to sacrifice all the info I could get on the price reaction on any specific level, but yes. Stress saver.
    Also i downloaded tekken 7 to keep my mind of the trade to play on screen one. Never got to do it though ahaha
     
    #23     Dec 4, 2018
  4. I agree. When people hear "risk 1-2% of your account on the trade" they put their stop so that they only lose 1-2% without considering the market.

    You should use the ATR or some multiple of the standard deviation to set your stop and THEN size your bet according to the 1-2% rule. You cannot control where the market goes, but you know where it is likely to go.
     
    #24     Dec 5, 2018
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  5. S-Trader

    S-Trader

    Are you sure about that? I was under the impression that the student was required *to execute 20 trades flawlessly* (i.e., per their rules) as an exercise in discipline... but not "to make 20 trades without a loss" to "prove (they) had viable rules," which is a completely different animal.

    (EDIT to correct/clarify after reviewing some of Douglas' stuff: In addition to the discipline aspect of the exercise (being able to follow your rules), I believe it was also intended to prove that they had a viable edge, and to demonstrate that they could think about trading properly, according to his "five fundamental truths." Although proving the edge is viable is in line with your post, I don't think he required the student to have 20 wins in a row.)
     
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    #25     Dec 8, 2018
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  6. MACD

    MACD

    Great Catch @S-Trader. I have not read or reviewed "Trading in the Zone" or "The Disciplined Trader" for many years. (Not an excuse for the error -- which I accept). I thank you S-Trader for pointing this out and I apologize for my "completely different animal."

    Not that it really matters, I like my "Animal" better. Yet I defer to your more recent read and understanding of the Books by Mark Douglas. Thanks.
     
    #26     Dec 8, 2018
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  7. S-Trader

    S-Trader

    Naw, I haven't read those in a long time either -- did a quick skim to review when I saw this thread. So this was all valuable for me, as a reminder that it would greatly benefit me to read those again (for the ??th times). Seems like each time I do, new lightbulbs go off. Definitely haven't understood or embraced everything that I need to from his teachings, not by far...

    Your "animal" -- I'm glad (or maybe not?) that I didn't have a mentor like you, who would require their student to get 20 wins in a row, lol. Maybe for something like perfecting shooting 3s, OK. But for trading? I'd either be waaay better, or have quit in discouragement a long time ago, lol. Take care...
     
    #27     Dec 8, 2018
  8. Dizaj

    Dizaj

    I have heard somewhere that ST limit is actually a level of pain which one trader can stand. It sounds a little bit strange, but there is some true in it. Without a pain there is no gain :). During the time and many, many deals made, you will find what generally works for you.
     
    #28     Dec 22, 2018
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  9. Newc2

    Newc2


    The biggest issue I still fight is when I enter a trade and I am underwater straight away. My stop hasn't been hit but it really annoys me and I have to fight myself not to exit before my stop is hit.

    I know I have a positive expectancy over many trades but still it is a major issue for me.
    I think this relates to micromanaging and why walking away from the screen might be the only thing to do after the stop loss has been put in place.
     
    #29     Jan 3, 2019
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  10. maxinger

    maxinger

    I believe you micro manage / micro analyse AFTER (not before ) you enter the trade.
    Many people including me face similar problem.

    This has not nothing to do with technical analysis. It has got to do with psychology / mind management / subconscious mind.
    The subconscious mind is causing havoc and it will run like an old broken tape every single day till we address it every single day.
     
    #30     Jan 4, 2019
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