Daytrading with SIZE

Discussion in 'Trading' started by LelandC, Jun 11, 2002.

  1. liltrdr

    liltrdr

    Lunch? Lunch is for wimps. :)
     
    #11     Jun 12, 2002
  2. Pit Bull wrote of trading 10 -20k at a shot on liquid equities.
     
    #12     Jun 12, 2002
  3. For ES and NQ you can trade up to 250 on a single order and the overall position limits are similar to those for the big contracts (IIRC S&P was 5K cars). The limit used to be 50 but that was lifted a while ago. After it was lifted the liquidity on the minis just took off.
     
    #13     Jun 12, 2002
  4. sabena

    sabena

    Tripack,


    The last time I asked a broker, he told me
    250 limit size on E-mini S&P and NO limit on
    E-mini Nasdaq.

    I believe the former limit was 30 and not 50
    like you mention...

    Correct me if I am wrong..
     
    #14     Jun 12, 2002
  5. sabena

    sabena

    The average size at the best bid or ask is
    around 100 contracts for the E-mini S&P
    and 200 contracts at the next best bid or offer

    So you can start to fire away your 100
    contracts trades without losing too much
    points because of the size.

    I am not there yet, anybody else is...? :0)
     
    #15     Jun 12, 2002
  6. sabena

    sabena

    Here is the E-mail I got about this
     
    #16     Jun 12, 2002

  7. 250 contracts at a time applies to all Globex traded products. I've had this conversation on another thread it seems. I think the 50 was the presplit # of contracts and the 30 was the post split # but it was so long ago that I could be wrong and it was always just 30.

    As far as average size at bid and ask, my gut tells me that the average is over 100, but I guess it depends on how you are figuring it. How are you figuring the average? Are you taking into account the max # of cars at each price level and averaging it over all price levels? Or are you taking all the posted bids and asks at a particular price level and averaging them for that price level and then adding up those averages across all price levels?
     
    #17     Jun 12, 2002
  8. #18     Jun 12, 2002
  9. sabena

    sabena

    Well, the best bid or offer is a little bit over 100, the average
    for the last 10 days was 107.
    It depends over which time frame you calculate the average
    off course...

    I make the average for each price level seperately.

    Because the orders are limit orders and people put in limit
    orders away from the current market price, it is evident
    that the size at the next bid or offer is bigger than at the
    best bid or offer.
    The ratio of the size at the next best bid or offer divided
    by the size at the best bid or offer is about 1.7

    I take about 100 samples daily at each price level, so
    that's more than enough to make reliable estimations
    of the averages.

    In the beginning of 2002 the average at the best bid or offer
    was around 75.
    If we go back to 2001, it used to be around 40.

    So we are definetely on the good track !
     
    #19     Jun 12, 2002