daytrading profits --- how many cents per trade is realistic

Discussion in 'Order Execution' started by kotika, Jun 16, 2006.

how much profit per trade?

  1. 1/2 cent

    8 vote(s)
    7.5%
  2. 1 cent

    3 vote(s)
    2.8%
  3. 1 1/2 cents

    6 vote(s)
    5.7%
  4. 2 cents

    3 vote(s)
    2.8%
  5. 3 cents

    7 vote(s)
    6.6%
  6. 4 cents

    5 vote(s)
    4.7%
  7. 5 cents

    14 vote(s)
    13.2%
  8. much more

    59 vote(s)
    55.7%
  9. less that a cent

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%
  1. Adobian

    Adobian

    Originally, I didn't pay attention, and I assumed the question asked how many cents per share. I guess that's what was intended anyhow.
     
    #11     Jun 17, 2006
  2. This is pretty arbitrary dont you think? How can you possible adapt to changing market conditions with such rigid trading criteria?

    Not flaming, just asking...


     
    #12     Jun 17, 2006
  3. Cheese

    Cheese

    Daytrading: I don't set targets for each day. I take what the day offers (eg YM).

    First, put aside 'trading for a living' which is a distraction preventing straight money accumulation. If you are simply using the market to build a capital pile, you add to & multiply your gains in making a continuously increasing accumulation.

    You can set up a very simple measurement to gauge your progress at x per day, which becomes 5x per week & 5x=y where a week=y. At the end of 4y, you can double your stake. And so on such that you can double your stake every 4y if for example x is a $30 gain on every $1000 stake. I have assumed both accurate trading and an average minimum gain. This is theoretical but can match reality .. you also have to contend with playing increasing position size of course. This brings in position size modeling.

    However make the measurements and projections slower or according to your own calculations to meet the targets you have in mind.
    :)
     
    #13     Jun 17, 2006
  4. john99

    john99

    More than 5 cents.

    I feel pretty crappy when a stock moves 2-3% intraday and I can only grab 0.25%. Do any scalpers out there know what I'm talking about?

    You guys must be trading the Q's and MSFT to be looking for 1-2 cent gains, that wouldn't work for me considering sometimes the spread can be 3 cents wide on what I trade. I know some traders on here move a lot of shares, so 2 cents can be pretty good in there case, but for someone only trading 10k s/day, that doesn't seem like much.

    Maybe I miss understood the question. I was thinking 5 cents meant, you buy X amount of shares at 50.00 and sell at 50.05, which would = 5 cents per share per trade. Am I right?
     
    #14     Jun 17, 2006
  5. Moreagr

    Moreagr

    my avg is about 5-10 cents doing 20k shares a day or more
     
    #15     Jun 18, 2006
  6. Dustin

    Dustin

    Nope, divide your days profit by your volume. That gives you cent-per-share profit which for most profitable traders ends up around a 1-2 cps long term average.
     
    #16     Jun 18, 2006
  7. borban

    borban

    That is a mere question of profit target. I believe one should never enter in a trade unless loss2profit target ratio is bellow 1/3
     
    #17     Jun 18, 2006
  8. ok. so i buy 1000 shares of stock and hold for .50c gain from my buy price, same day. the stock performs and I make $500.00. where does that place me in these calculations.
     
    #18     Jun 18, 2006
  9. It means you have about $500 more than you did at the outset. That was your goal and you achieved it. That's what really matters. Next is to become consistent at doing this. Don't get looped into an over analysis mode. :)
     
    #19     Jun 18, 2006
  10. john99

    john99

    Got it. I'll try keeping track of this value in the future, because I think it is a good gauge to how I'm trading and can help me decide to trade more or less size based on this number.
     
    #20     Jun 18, 2006