Day trading is losers game

Discussion in 'Trading' started by oilfxpro, May 17, 2011.

  1. yea there so much psychology behind the market. Ive read alot on ta sometimes i think some of it is such garbage other times i think some of the stuff works but is taken so out of context... The answer is so clear sometimes and yet still we make bad decisions.. ive read alot of books on ta.. elliot wave,fib, to all sorts of ocsalators.. ichimku etc.. haha and ive messed with alot of their parameters and curve fitted the indicators to match the underlying.. but in essense my love has always been options.. i realyy wanna start trading more currency options... xde etc..
     
    #611     Jul 31, 2012
  2. cornix

    cornix

    I'm too lazy (Russian, you know :D ) to analyze options lately... Agree on psychology, would recommend Mark Douglas on the matter, good stuff worth reading too.
     
    #612     Jul 31, 2012
  3. amos trversky and taleb... i love rare event trading... bleed slow exponientially make up for it on tail events.. i have a ratio backspread on the euro puts in case some real crazy stufff hits the fan... i have always thought there was alot of really agreesive double down trading in currency because of the swings.. martingaling blow ups..
     
    #613     Jul 31, 2012
  4. cornix

    cornix

    As you mentioned Taleb does it mean you mostly are net long?
     
    #614     Jul 31, 2012
  5. Im long volatilty as you would put it.. If euro goes up im fine.. im long interest rates asxwell or you could say im short bonds... Euro trade is on the jan 14 options series... why would you assume that i would be net long when i said taleb
     
    #615     Jul 31, 2012
  6. cornix

    cornix

    Yes, long volatility, that's what I thought when you mentioned Taleb (aka Black Swan I assume :) ).

    Not sure @ long interest rates of ECB, though, considering the current fundamental context. But that's your game, you must know better. :)
     
    #616     Jul 31, 2012
  7. Ecb? haha no i think europe know their problems better then we do... Im taking a while bet but small bet on inflation to hyper inflation in the usa.. interest rates dont stay below 2 forever. they are an option spread on the tbt
     
    #617     Jul 31, 2012
  8. cornix

    cornix

    I see... Well, almost deflation currently even with zero rates, so... :)

    Of course all those QE's will eventually lead to hyper-inflation as econ starts to recover, but that's quite a long-term bet I would say.
     
    #618     Jul 31, 2012
  9. yea it sure is. . But the guys that bet againts those subprime mortgage bonds probably thought that was along term investment to... i wanna figure out how to limited risk lever up big time on a jump in interest rates with alot of room for error on timing.. best i can come up with are deep otm calls or ratio backspreads.... ratios have margin requiremetns that you could just as well buy a less amount of dotm options to make up for.. tie less money up but expirence theta burn.. Options dont have black swans priced in :)
     
    #619     Jul 31, 2012
  10. ssss

    ssss

    cornixforex wrote

    Registered: Jan 2011
    Posts: 1267



    1. First version of your questions

    thousands of trades 66% hit .... with payement 1:1 ?
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    2. Second version of your questions

    ...I am asking you. If someone showed you a credible track record of many trades with average win rate over 60% (after all fees and spread) with at least 1:1 risk/reward, would you admit retail trading is possible?

    Difference " thousands of trades 66% hit "
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    against "many trades with average win rate over 60%"
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    Many and thousands -that is very different matter

    Real money Record belov with multiple's small operations

    China - 2116.39% Survey / Trade Report (.xls version)

    May 2011
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    http://forexforums.dailyfx.com/king-micro-trading-contest/485819-contest-winner-archive.html

    But ...

    1. That is many small profitable trades, but
    not "thousands of trades 66% hit "

    2. Exist more as 1 record's in this contest, which are

    a. have more high % -12700%, 3108 % ,2464 % &
    b. 80 % profit of which is related to one operation
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    ......

    For multi mln profit of Casino in best EU Casino in Monte-Carlo

    in roullete by payement 1:1 enough 51.36% "profitable trade's "
     
    #620     Jul 31, 2012