Day trading is losers game

Discussion in 'Trading' started by oilfxpro, May 17, 2011.

  1. cornix

    cornix


    I never say "impossible" in any of my posts, if you noticed. Because no matter how I trade, I know different people can be profitable while trading very differently.

    Your "test" is just something based on some limited parameters. How can it be a serious proof of whole "counter-trend trading" bunch of methods not having an edge?
     
    #181     Mar 11, 2012
  2. By counter trend trading you are expecting the herd to do what you expect it to do , the herd is strong and pushing against you , your profits are smaller than when trading with the herd.
     
    #182     Mar 11, 2012
  3. cornix

    cornix

    Now that is a different point. :)

    Yes, definitely potential average profit is smaller, when one is picking minor retraces against the main trend, picking the entries, where trend traders take profits etc.

    But "smaller average profit per trade" and "negative edge" are two different substances.

    Counter-trend scalps can be good, with enough experience they can nicely add up to trader's profits, because she/he would exploit all the "zigzags" of the move and not just sit them out.
     
    #183     Mar 11, 2012
  4. There are enough trends.

    To help you a little:
    In eurusd during the last 14 month period there were approximately 190 occasions where a 4 hour period had a range larger than 100pips. About 0.6 per day, or about 10% of the 4H bars.
    Even 1 per week would be enough. If you narrow it down you will find that 2 specific 4 hour bars are likely to have that range, and if you want to be more specific one 4 hour bar, the pre New York- New York 4 H bar is the most likely period, as one would expect. So You find there were about 90 cases of 100 or more pips during this 14 month period, about one third of the days had 100 or more pips range during that 4 hour period. And these are just the "mega" trends, like Friday in eurusd. That is enough, imho. Of course I'd love to have it every day, but that would be too easy, wouldn't it :) .
     
    #184     Mar 11, 2012
  5. cornix

    cornix

    Yea, and for those times, when there's no trend, we have reversal signals in the arsenal. :p
     
    #185     Mar 11, 2012
  6. It's true, 95%+ fail in daytrading. But the minority consistently makes. It's akin to professional sports. Same goes for investing.
     
    #186     Mar 11, 2012
  7. It is highly possible to consistently make money from day trading.These are friday's counter trend trades , it shows you can make money even on a bad day on the wrong side of the market.

    Overall a net loss of 220 pips , but a $ figure of profit $220
     
    #187     Mar 11, 2012
  8. cornix

    cornix

    How can it be a loss in pips, but a profit in dollars? :confused:
     
    #188     Mar 11, 2012
  9. I will offer u training course for $20k , it is called magical trading course.I will make a magician/trader.:cool:
     
    #189     Mar 11, 2012
  10. cornix

    cornix

    Thank you for this generous offer, but I am too stupid to learn from any course anyway, so will continue to watch funny pictures aka charts the way I do last 7 years. :D
     
    #190     Mar 11, 2012