day trading in bear market?

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by mute9003, Mar 14, 2022.

  1. spooz

    spooz

    An experienced trader can handle all those markets, with the caveat that the "dead" market has to be moving a little, say 3 times the spread plus comms. If by "dead" you mean the trend is flat but the range is good that can be profitable you can often get a few bounces. It always ends in a loosing trade but is profitable overall.
     
    #31     Mar 15, 2022
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  2. maxinger

    maxinger

    "An experienced trader can handle all those markets, "
    you probably heard it from the professional writers/talkers.
    I heard it from my trading coaches who were professional talkers but unsuccessful traders.



    dead market - I am talking about the day range that is relatively tiny.

    eg today's copper market is dead.

    an experienced trader trades heavily when the market is trendy.
    and when the market is dead or choppy, he avoids trading it or he trades with a small quantity.
    mind agility is important.

    well. there are heroes who want to trade all the above 3 mentioned markets.
    It is their choice. But they must make sure their trading account is
    growing, not depleting so as to bring home the bacon.

    anyway, do whatever you want.
    It doesn't bother me.
     
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    #32     Mar 15, 2022
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  3. %%
    WITH 12+ 120 months\ charts, 200days of daily candlecharts+ 4 hour charts+ other time frames.
    I like 'em because a 4 hour chart ends @12:30 cst.
    Too bad the 2nd part of 4 hour chart is only 2.5 hours, so its not exactly perfect:D:D
     
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    #33     Mar 15, 2022
  4. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Futures plots 6 x H4 bars per trading day - with last bar covering 3 hours because CME is closed between 5-6pm EDT. No biggie.
     
    #34     Mar 15, 2022
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  5. spooz

    spooz

    I didn't realize you were talking about daily bars. I'm describing trading With bars of 4hr 15m 5m 1m and 5sec. Totally different environment. Yes, beware of "Traders" with things for sale.
     
    #35     Mar 15, 2022
  6. tony.m

    tony.m

    I wonder if your health issues are related to the screen time.
     
    #36     Mar 15, 2022
  7. %%
    GOOD call on monday\ most of my ETFs were going down except inverse ETfs going up.
    I would not call it scalping, but FED day was good day to daytrade
    Bear rally, SDS had some good moves but MAR tends to be a 12 month low, in SPY + SPXL + upro ,sso.......................................... Markets are not really rigged but they tend to trend.
     
    #37     Mar 16, 2022
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  8. Dogsun

    Dogsun

    As some have mentioned, trading an inverse etf is an option. Other than that, just trading half size on days the market is down should help.
     
    #38     Mar 17, 2022
  9. raddo

    raddo

    That is an interesting question. The best you can do is to find some systematic trading strategy, which is unrelated to the equity market. Why? Because the time when financial markets are in stress - aka they are in a bear market, is also the time of high volatility. A lot of algo trading strategies (and not just algos but most of the investment strategies per se) are very susceptible to bear markets.
    So, what's a solution? Find some strategy that you can use as ahedge during a time of when equities are in a bear market
     
    #39     Apr 26, 2022
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    #40     Apr 26, 2022