Day Trading Crude without indicators.

Discussion in 'Journals' started by mfbreakout, Jan 28, 2012.




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    Zenster is getting his ass, dick and the latest up leg chewed off.......:)

    the bull mincer is a pussy boy.

    his first real time trade call in the thread.
    congrats.

    a " head up your ass " Zen trade.

    long and wrong, with no stop...


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    oil inventory gap closed , back to the moneyline and the re puke.........

    cheers,

    s
     
    #131     Feb 1, 2012
  2. CL daily chart.

    So, I will be shorting bounces till CL closes above key levels. As day traders we get to trade both from long side and short side.

    I just feel more confident to short with more size vs longs till facts change.

    Long 97.22 target yesterday low of 97.86. daily support 97.39-97.26
     
    #132     Feb 1, 2012
  3. I am pure day trader. No overnight position thinking CL will go to 98.50 etc..

    So flat 9752. I like to trade CL fresh everyday with a CLEAN SHEET.
     
    #133     Feb 1, 2012
  4. Hi,

    I always wondered about acd :

    - what time do you use for your opening range?
    - and what value do you use for A plus/down, and Cdown/plus if these are all different. Any idea how to determine these values?
     
    #134     Feb 1, 2012
  5. I use 45 minutes OR. Traders who like to fade moves use wide OR like me. Pure breakout traders use smaller OR like 5 minutes, 10 minutes etc.. Key is to pick one time frame and stick with it.

    A value= 8 ticks, C value=13 ticks. There is nothing magic about A and C values. Smaller values are OK for wide OR.

    For small time frames like 5 minutes one has to use more than 8 ticks. I have no idea what that is as it depends on each trader style.

    Calculation of A and C values is done via 20 days ATR of instrument and then some multiplier to accommodate for VOLATILITY.

    I just use what Mark firms recommends as a guideline. There are many traders who just calculate their own A and C values.

    I am attaching A and C values sheet which shows recommended OR and values.
     
    #135     Feb 1, 2012
  6. Zenster long entry / red arrow, update......

    no stop on this trade.

    s

    :cool:
     
    #136     Feb 1, 2012
  7. dv4632

    dv4632

    Thanks for the ACD sheet.

    And I agree about needing a multiplier for volatility, whichever market you choose. For example the canned 3.5 number for ES has been working well in January, but try it in Aug/Sep 2011 and results will be different.

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    Shopster chart... [​IMG]
     
    #137     Feb 2, 2012
  8. The chart is ... brutal :eek:
    There's going to be blood on the dancefloor :cool:
     
    #138     Feb 2, 2012
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    #139     Feb 2, 2012
  10. Crude currently hovering above the daily, weekly, and monthly A down levels.
     
    #140     Feb 2, 2012