Day-Trading 2.0 for small traders

Discussion in 'Trading' started by jjrvat, Jan 5, 2008.

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  1. Great thread. On my second read now.

    Only useful comment now is that maybe CLN8 and/or USO are more liquid to trade than QMN8, and provide better fills, especially for short term scalping.(this refers only to last step by step PBP).

    Sent doc request to amitman several days ago. TIA.
     
    #511     May 28, 2008
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    Using INSIDE BAR above/below the wave as a "possible" scalp trigger.

    NOTE I SAID "POSSIBLE"!! Sometimes it just doesn't make sense to take the trigger.

    Go short on BRIGHT RED IB bars, and long on BRIGHT GREEN IB bars.
     
    #512     May 28, 2008
  3. 1. I have a question about what are the best instruments to scalp with. I usually trade F/X but are there better options?
     
    #513     May 28, 2008
  4. Not sure I understand what "INSIDE BAR" means. Are you talking about those vertical bars in the middle?
     
    #514     May 28, 2008
  5. Inside Bars or Haramis, Engulfing Patterns or Dojis will work from time to time - maybe more often than not. But the beauty of this thread is that jjrvat explains his point of view, when to take a signal and specially when not to take a trade.

    I'm looking forward to the jjrvat's next posts. In general I appreciate the sum up of the key elements of a PBP.
     
    #515     May 29, 2008
  6. Agreed.

    I've been more profitable over the past 2 weeks of paper trading than ever before.
     
    #516     May 29, 2008
  7. Come on, open up a $500 account and at least trade 0.1 minilot.

    Paper trading does NOT make you sweat, your hand shake, your heart beat faster, your muscles tense, etc...

    And there are NO PARTIAL FILLS when you paper trade...LOL!!

    GET IN THE GAME!!
     
    #517     May 30, 2008
  8. Here are some things I've been thinking about:

    I am getting hurt here in choppy areas. Take this for example:

    (in all pics here the thin line is 240WMA and the thicker line is 17HMA. The candles are colored according to the slope of the HMA, I just left the actual HMA visible so I could see its angle)

    240wma sloping down
    17HMA just changed to down slope, wait for confirmation (close of first red candle, enter short)

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    There was no scalping opportunity and if you held onto this trade until confirmation of the HMA changing slope, you ate a 23 tick loss.



    So looking at that chart, what seemed like an obvious modification to that entry strategy was to not enter until the second candle breaks the low of the first (for a short position) thus "confirming" the downtrend. That would have caused us to not even take that trade which would have increased our P/L statement by eliminating a losing trade.

    But then I realized that that wasn't a reliable strategy, either, because sometimes even when it looks like it's going to be a down trend, and the second candle goes lower than the low of the first (for a short position), it then reverses:

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    Of course, simply entering when the second candle of the new color appears works a lot of the time, too. But I'm still trying to come up with an algorithm to improve the results and more importantly not enter when it's just going to reverse right away. I figure reducing losses is more important than increasing winners.


    Sometimes the above situation occurs even with a perfect PBP setup. You enter after lower lows and lower highs and it still goes against you immediately:

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    And sometimes the opposite occurs, and you get huge profit opportunities that don't follow PBP:

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    ^ This picture also illustrates why you can't use a stop above the high of the first red candle for a short trade.

    And sometimes the 240WMA can't make up its mind about what it wants to do. This is the YM from the last hour of trading yesterday (5/31/08 2-3pm CST). I got destroyed and had 5 losses in a row (my new record)

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    And finally, even this afternoon I've been getting chopped to hell.

    I borrowed the idea from the charts that TheRumpledOne was posting and made my own jjrvat indicator (except mine isn't as pretty). It's 3 rows of dots.

    The bottom row is the slope of the 240WMA (red = down, green = up, blue = horizontal (uncommon))

    The middle row is the HMA (same color/slope coding)

    The top row is the jjrvat trade indicator. If both slopes are down, it turns red (go short). If both slopes are up, it turns green (go long). If they don't match, it is blue (meaning don't take any action).

    Of course the problem is that the dots can change color at any point during a candle's formation, so I can never enter until the SECOND dot of a given color on the top row.

    Anyway, here's this afternoon and you can see from this chart where all my long and short entries were (top row of the indicator, enter short on second red dot in a row, enter long on second green dot in a row for the reasons explained in the previous paragraph.

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    So my priorities are:

    1. Come up with a better entry system to help me avoid trades where it's going to reverse right away (such as in the first image).

    2. Come up with a better exit system because:
    ...a) I suck at scalping
    ...b) waiting until confirmation of the HMA changing slope for an exit often leads to large losses
    ...c) with my mentality I need everything to be 100% mechanical. No discretion, no emotion.
     
    #518     May 30, 2008
  9. There are no partial fills when I'm trading 1 YM lot, either :D
     
    #519     May 30, 2008
  10. Here's my daily performance since starting this method.

    Re: the huge loss on 5/16. Options were expiring this day and I'm told that this is a bad day to trade.

    I assume 1 tick commission per round trip (YM) since 1 tick is $5 and I think it's like $2.35 per side or something to trade the YM. So my daily total is the number of ticks made or lost that day minus the number of trades I made.

    I'm worried because it appears I do well on trending days and fail on choppy days.

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    I have every open and close price for every trade I've made during that time, but that's way too big of a document to post.

    With my luck, as soon as I begin trading with real money I'll have a string of big losses.

    Would you guys say May has been a pretty typical month for trading or has it been more trendy or more choppy than usual?
     
    #520     May 30, 2008
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