thank you again.. I must admit i have done demo for 6 month now...and some strategies are worth taking a risk and do work. i am not talking about strategies that you lock profit and sleep on it.. ( unless ofcourse it is arb ).. but hedging, doing homework, exit strategy , money managment does reduce the risk , and up the reward..hence mking profit over all.. hey mahras: you said your friends make 6 figures... but what percentage of their investiment is that .. ?