Dangerous and sad situation!!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Error 404, Jul 12, 2003.

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  1. Gosh, I really don't think an anonymous message board can alter my mood. (Your mileage may vary!)
     
    #171     Aug 6, 2003
  2. man

    man

    max401 fasterpussycat

    i do not follow threads that turn into personal attacks, so i am not aware of what happened between you and other people on this board. having said that i would like you to clarify one thing: do you or did you try to investigate the real life of people you met on this board?


    peace
     
    #172     Aug 7, 2003
  3. Investigate? That's a laugh. Only after months of being begged numerous times and then only after being admonished, and I might add harassed, for not calling all the previous phone numbers listed, I finally looked up a claimed (and in error, of course) real estate sales price.

    You shouldn't take an anonymous message board so seriously. Bottom line is, in my opinion, that two things are obvious: 1. Don't take your arrogant pretensions to unprovable heights, someone may call you on it and 2. Don't practically print your name, address and phone number on the internet; a valuable lesson, hopefully learned by any whose simple common sense may have deteriorated after years of boasting.
     
    #173     Aug 7, 2003
  4. man

    man

    i c

    seems like none of you guys should have gone so far in board rumbling ....
     
    #174     Aug 7, 2003
  5. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    Investigate, Interrogate, harass, Stalk.... all to disprove things that one poster said 1 1/2 years ago.... Crazy huh?
     
    #175     Aug 7, 2003
  6. man

    man

    when i started reading the initial posts and the early pages of this thread, i thought this could not be true for a board like this. actually i still do not know what to think about it. it is weird - whatever perspective you choose.


    peace
     
    #176     Aug 7, 2003
  7. It's a laugh alright. I have been quietly watching you trying to fan the flames since my last post on July 14.

    "All the phone numbers" huh? I sent a private message to you quite a while back with a cell phone number. A number from a carrier I dropped in Jan. or Feb. at the latest. Hardly what anyone in their right mind would consider the equivalent of giving my home or office number. You said you would be around here in June. So I said I would buy you dinner then. In Florida. The games you played, the horse shit you slung to make me into the guy that made and revoked an invitation. What a joke. Anyone who followed that exchange had to be laughing like I was. Dinner in France, airfare included. Amazing!

    The truth never interested you at all. You had so many opportunities. I gave you information about who I traded with in Chicago at the CBOE. You had no desire to know the truth at all. You only enjoyed the very easy games you played. Just say I was lying, and that was it.

    But I indeed gave you that one cell number. At worst, I figured you would just not call (as I expected) and continue to stalk me as you had been doing forever it seems. Reading and re-reading every post looking for inconsistencies. And that was fine too, because that would have only meant nothing changed.

    But I miscalculated. It got worse. You went out of your way to investigate when I foolishly gave out one accurate specific bit of information. And that was the current asking price for the home I formerly owned. That was what you needed to go ravaging through public records to investigate me and my life further. One thing that did not require you to interact with human beings.

    At that point, I was finally sincerely convinced that everyone was right. You truly were a stalker. It was NOT me that used that term for a very very long time. It was used probably a hundred times by other ET members in referring to your obsession with me. I could not make a post in any forum on any subject without it being challenged by you

    Then last month, I stopped posting. So what is a stalker to do?

    Like a paid vacation holiday in paradise for you knowing I would not respond. If I did, then I would be guilty of "lying" since I said I was done responding. A win/win set up for you.. And when I did not respond to the lies, good old Max just kept hammering away. Would not let it die. Posted pictures. Kept refreshing this thread. Anything to accomplish the mission of enjoying the efforts of slandering me in an open field. If I came off the sidelines to block your run to the end zone, then you win too. You get your favorite target for stalking back on the playing field. Win/win again for the ingenious Max.

    So mission accomplished. Here I am. Go ahead and tell us all about how you went to the Palm Beach Courthouse. I know you didn't. You say you did. Prove it!!

    BTW, where do you live? I have asked you this before. Do you remember why? I do! All I wanted was the time zone. Nothing else. Why? Our little secret for now, right? (I know you don't forget anything).

    I was a fool for giving out too much information about myself. The internet is open to anyone. I learned a big lesson.

    Clearly I was naive and clearly I am to blame for letting you get your foot into a door I opened a crack.

    But the truth of the matter is that if we put everything I have ever said about you personally, and everything you have ever said about me personally aside, what is left?

    I have not banged heads with anyone else. You have with countless others.

    I readily said you were very helpful to me when I got a new laptop 5 or 6 months ago, and was lost trying to figure out some of the features and differences in the operating system, etc.

    I gave you credit and I thanked you.

    Your response to my trading posts? "Just a tired rehash of conventional wisdom"....well I am sorry I did not make any unique discoveries or have any revelations to share that would guarantee that you or anyone else would make money if you followed my advice. I left that for the trading geniuses here. Lord knows we have enough self proclaimed gurus. I never claimed to be one.

    Now I suppose you can say I lied again because I banged heads with FPC when I had just stated that I only banged heads with you. But I don't believe there is a single person here who believes that FPC counts at all as a real PERSON.

    If anyone does, than I retract that statement. If anyone considers FPC a real person, then fine, make it Max and FPC. Two "people". But Max, while I cannot understand you or your world, I do consider you a PERSON. And an intelligent one. So if I omit FPC, forgive me for my standards.

    Tell me Max, what is your purpose here? Your are the "inquisitor"? Do we need one?

    This guy "Man" asked you a yes or no question. You answered it with a song and dance, and a lot of bullshit.

    Again, your beautifully crafted response:

    "Only after months of being begged numerous times and then only after being admonished, and I might add harassed, for not calling all the previous phone numbers listed, I finally looked up a claimed (and in error, of course) real estate sales price."

    Begged? Harassed? All The Phone Numbers?

    Three consecutive lies in one sentence, Followed by "FINALLY LOOKED UP"....Finally? You POUNCED ON IT as soon as you had a little piece of information you could research without human contact. I can see you weeping with joy. Dancing on your computer desk.

    Obviously I have lost the respect of a lot of people here for my stupidity in letting you goad me into everything. Including this very post itself.

    But I know, and you know, and EVERYONE KNOWS that you get pleasure out of doing the harassing. It is so blatant, and so continuous that there is no way you can possibly deny this. That is what you are all about.

    Do your photoshop crap. Put a Pinocchio nose on my passport picture. Ask for "proof" of my statements, and then make a mockery of the "proof". And continue to ask, and accuse, and just lie your ass off. And when that doesn't work, tell us all how my son is not my son. Such absurdity. And for what?

    Tell me Max. For what? What is your goal? What do you want out of life? If you succeeded in discrediting me, and anyone else who you target, what does that do for YOU? How does this make YOU feel better? Where is the joy? What is the accomplishment? Whose good does it serve?

    Max, get out of the basement. You know your computers and you love them. But they aren't flesh and blood. They don’t love you back. Try to assimilate into the real world. Sometimes it's fun, sometimes heartbreaking. Real life is full of risk and rewards. Just like trading.

    Is that why you don't participate in the markets and in real life? Are you so risk averse you can't deal with the possibility of failure? Do you need to be guaranteed of success? Is that the appeal of your attacks and lies? This would make sense I suppose. There is no downside to you.

    Even I can stand back and see how this post is another "victory" for you. I may be crazy, but I am not that stupid. You always win. But only in your game. I know I am way out of my league with you. I know I will always lose. I accept that.

    So go on Max, have a ball again. Attack me some more.

    Why not start where you left off? How long DID I own that house? (and where did I ever say anything about that very issue like you so freely implied I did and hence was lying about it?). You clearly lied.

    How much money did I "NOT MAKE" in what period of time? It's public record. So come on Max. Tell everyone how dumb I was. Right where you left off.

    Or, knowing what you know, give it a rest. I don't think there is anyone who would think my return was not more than "respectable". Wish I could do it all the time.

    But you won't do that. You will change the subject, not address that issue, because it won't play into your hands.

    Want me to disappear again so you can just make up more lies and let them sit here unchallenged as they have since July 14?

    Be my guest. Say whatever you want. I will post on topics from trading to politics. From computers to Candle's polls. From sexuality to religion to cars. Just as I always have. And of course, you will shadow me, and do what you do. You will take joy in telling me that the new car I bought is so ugly that the designer should be "shot at dawn, no blindfold, no cigarette". That is what you are about. Negativity.

    I will make my most sincere effort to not respond to you. Have I said this before? Yes. Have I reneged? Yes. Have I made a fool of myself? Yes. Have I lost the respect of people on ET? Yes.

    Certainly Optional and Nitro come to mind in this thread. Two guys I always got along with and who's respect and "friendship" at whatever level that term is achievable in this medium is, is meaningful to me. Now I have managed to get them both to disrespect me for my internecine exchanges with you. But hopefully I can get off the mat with these guys and others. If I have committed unpardonable sins, then that's my fault, and I will have to live with that.

    I hope I can regain that respect if I ever had it. You on the other just never wanted or cared to be a part of whatever sense of "community" there is here. You relish the role of being nasty and unpleasant. And that was my great failure. To not recognize that people like you really exist. I thought people were by nature just more good than not. I was wrong. I thought exclusively mean spirited characters were just in comic books. I never knew people existed that wanted to be perceived the way you seem to want.

    So continue to be the boards "Grand Inquisitor". Just like FPC is the board's resident psycho.

    Peace,
    RS
     
    #177     Aug 7, 2003
  8. RS7, that's not writing, that's TYPING. Oh, I'll probably answer your little diatribe later. Have a nice day.
     
    #178     Aug 7, 2003
  9. man

    man

    error + max
    i am far from knowing what has happened between you and i actually do not want to know. but i have the strong feeling that this would have ended long time ago and could probably end even now without all the (excuse me) pathetic aspects. if you would not reply in so much detail bringing up all aspects of injustice you find in the other ones post, then the anger would rather vanish then pyramide.

    it is natural that people have different opinions - nothing bad about that. but if they never take step back it will almost inevitably end in big trouble. i would even say that wars can start in that way (well, that was a little pathetic too).

    you are both wasting energy. lots of it.

    in former yugoslavia in europe there are conflicts, where each party has a lot of good arguments against the other one. extremly convicing if you liste to one party. nevertheless they both suffered from injustice and won't be able to get back to normal, joyful life if they never take a step back.

    it is a pity to see within one page of this thread what the problem is - with both of you completely unable and/or unwilling to let the other one off the hook. and consequently yourself.


    consider that life is too short to waste it with anything like this. sorry could not help writing this, but i am surely aware that this is not my business.


    peace
     
    #179     Aug 7, 2003
  10. man

    man

    consider this: both of you spend several hours within the last weeks with this thread. was it worth a single minute? honestly.


    peace
     
    #180     Aug 7, 2003
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