Damn you, Mr. Sharpe

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by Banjo, Dec 9, 2013.

  1. What's mythical is that discrete does not assume 50% distributions. Trading is indeed continuous as in trend following but not for small intervals.
     
    #11     Dec 10, 2013
  2. Discrete Kelly formula: used when the payout ratio is always the same.
    Continuous Kelly formula: used when the payout ratio is variable (i.e., the winning amounts are not the same, such as in a trading system).
     
    #12     Dec 10, 2013
  3. Thus my point.

    Kut2k2 is obsessed with binomial 50-50 win assumptions regardless of the fact only small intervals are actually that way.
     
    #13     Dec 10, 2013
  4. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    Evidently I've misunderstood your use of "continuous.". That said, I have the following observations.

    There's no explanation for why standard deviation appears in the denominator of your CK formula. Based on what I know about the Kelly fraction formulas, it doesn't belong.

    What is excess returns doing in the numerator? The Kelly fraction is based on total trade returns, not excess trade returns.

    Whoever dreamed up your CK formula has totally screwed the pooch. He got both the numerator and the denominator wrong.

    Finally let me note that the Sharpe ratio is a performance metric while the Kelly ratio is a position sizing mechanism. I'm hard pressed to see any meaningful connection between the two.
     
    #14     Dec 10, 2013
  5. The formula that you are questioning can be derived in a very straightforward manner. The author of that formula is Edward Thorp, who is a professor of mathematics and finance, a hedge fund manager, and a successful trader/investor with a long term record of 20% annual returns over the last 28 years.

    Now, what are your credentials?
     
    #15     Dec 10, 2013
  6. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    Argumentum ad authoritatum is a pretty big logical fallacy. Even experts make mistakes.

    That said, here are my "credentials":

    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=102205
     
    #16     Dec 10, 2013
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #17     Dec 13, 2013