It has nothing to do with something "vague" like being "OK with". It is believing that Jesus is the son of the living God and that His suffering and death paid the penalty for our sins. The acceptance is allowing Him into our hearts as our Lord and Savior. To not believe this is to face the Great White Throne" judgment. In which camp are you Good1. It is clear where Mickey, Stu, and Overnight are. But I have not figured you out. You are a mystery.
Here is an additional stipulation, so it's really starting to get complicated, but not so complicated that the child of a devil could not comprehend it. If you understand the nature of faith (believing) you'd be aware that you, as a man, only ever believe what you want to be true. So ok, you want someone who looked like a man, to also be the son of "living" god. That's what you want. That's not what you know. Meanwhile, can you point out any dead gods? I thought they were all living? Is the Good/Christ i have previously described "dead" to you? You accept (are ok with) the pain, blood, suffering and death of the "good son" as i've pointed out. You are ok with it, even if it is/was Jesus. "Into our heart" is vague. Could mean anything. This is an opaque, non-transparent gray area of potentially shifting goal posts, and puts power in the hands of whomever is accepted as interpreter between you and god (ie. priest, pastor, lawyer, child). Whether the good son is your savior depends on how early the "plan" to kill him was made up. Was it made before he was the son of god? If so, then the father, who kills the son, is your savior. Or, was this plan made after the son of god was created the son of god, and volunteered to not break any laws so he could pay the fines of all the lawbreakers lawbreaking...through his own pain, blood, suffering and death? If so, then yes, he would save you from a father who is more interested in getting his gallon of pain-blood, than from whom the death-blood comes from. So if you're "ok" with (accept) vicarious, and/or collective punishment unconnected to those who broke the law, such as yourself, then you can go ahead and "accept" (be "ok" with) that. But if you can accept it, so can the devil...unless you want to continue to complicate something you've said is very simple. I'm quite sure the devil will be happy to "accept" any belief into his heart to get out of demoncracy and into one of the nicer mansions (more mansion than the devil can even imagine) in one of the nicer neighborhoods of the benevolent dictatorship of the Empire. I get it. Carrot and stick. In the markets we call this fear and greed. This was not in your original list of stipulations so it's getting even more complicated. You're not making this up as you go are you? Anyway, carrot and stick is how most empires are ruled, and you seem to be saying the Empire where your amazing mansion is located will also be a carrot and stick regime. Think about how words can't describe how amazing your mansion will be. OR, think about this dreadful potential commencement of serious torture (even more torture than what most people already experience). Given such carrots or such sticks, i can understand how you have succumbed to accept the pain, blood, suffering and death of the good son, to get your mansion in the nice neighborhood. But i can also understand why the devil would succumb too, given enough time. Why would you deny the devil his due, when you yourself are a lawbreaker, presuming he accepts, and gets into his heart and believes...and whatever else you say must be done to get the mansion?
And its clear where you are, led down the garden path by the biggest con artist hoax ever created. They should replace bibles in pews with this.
Awww Evilmouse, you left the party and shut the door but you snuck back around to listen in to make sure you didn't miss anything. I was curious about that.
Overnight, See your daily verse that you thought you were missing is back. I knew Student would not let you down. I hope you got a good night's sleep and are feeling in a better mood this morning. I guess I kinda frustrated you in the other thread last night.
Daily Bible Verse. "And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me; Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins. And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat. And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcasses upon the carcasses of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you." Leviticus 26 Have a nice day